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Old 09-04-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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It is my understanding that Ron Paul is an illegal alien sympathizer just like the rest of them.
He wants to save Ameica, not keep destroying it. All his past comments and votes on illegal immigration issues are on record to see with a web search. In last debate he said let the church help feed illegals, we need to secure the border, but then he said at end he'd stop entitlements meaning welfare. This last one is the key words others won't say. He recently said the welfare state is the main attraction for illegal immigration. The establishment candidates keep changing their tune to sound tougher to appease us, such as Mitt Romney, Perry, and even McCain on AZ law. Yet when rubber meets the road they all want illegals to register to stay here, which part of the elite globalists comp. Immig. reform. agenda.

I read bush's long speeches on immigration made before he was elected on how he would get tough on illegals, was just a bunch of lies. Globalists are controlling D and R parties and the media, so candidates have to be careful to lie well to us, but their loyalty is always with their globalist elite bosses who finance their re-elections via lobbyist organizations. Paul is one of a handful who is a non globalist and he is not a member of the foreign relations committee (of globalists), like rest of candidates and most officials are. He's the only one in Washington who tells the whole truth of government corruption for 30 years, and long time financial expert too.
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:04 PM
 
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He wants to save Ameica, not keep destroying it. All his past comments and votes on illegal immigration issues are on record to see with a web search. In last debate he said let the church help feed illegals, we need to secure the border, but then he said at end he'd stop entitlements meaning welfare. This last one is the key words others won't say. He recently said the welfare state is the main attraction for illegal immigration. The establishment candidates keep changing their tune to sound tougher to appease us, such as Mitt Romney, Perry, and even McCain on AZ law. Yet when rubber meets the road they all want illegals to register to stay here, which part of the elite globalists comp. Immig. reform. agenda.

I read bush's long speeches on immigration made before he was elected on how he would get tough on illegals, was just a bunch of lies. Globalists are controlling D and R parties and the media, so candidates have to be careful to lie well to us, but their loyalty is always with their globalist elite bosses who finance their re-elections via lobbyist organizations. Paul is one of a handful who is a non globalist and he is not a member of the foreign relations committee (of globalists), like rest of candidates and most officials are. He's the only one in Washington who tells the whole truth of government corruption for 30 years, and long time financial expert too.
2012 Presidential Hopefuls' Immigration Stances | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels


Ron Paul gets an F on illegal immigration and Herman Cain gets a C-. Now grant you a C- isn't that great but in comparison to most of the rest it is a pretty good grade. I like many of his ideas on the economy and jobs also. He is an eloquent speaker and very down to earth IMO.
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Old 09-04-2011, 07:04 PM
 
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2012 Presidential Hopefuls' Immigration Stances | NumbersUSA - For Lower Immigration Levels


Ron Paul gets an F on illegal immigration and Herman Cain gets a C-. Now grant you a C- isn't that great but in comparison to most of the rest it is a pretty good grade. I like many of his ideas on the economy and jobs also. He is an eloquent speaker and very down to earth IMO.
This should be a wake-up call to you. The candidate who is most in-line with your position on this issue gets a C-.

Let me put it another way: the MOST HARDLINE EXTREMIST candidate is not hardline and extreme enough for you.

What you should conclude: you've lost the battle. Get over it and join the 21st century. Your politics are now in the trashbin of history where they belong.
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Old 09-04-2011, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Getting back on-topic, why can't the ITIN filers be able to use their tax refund credits anyway they chose if they legally qualify for them?...

I mean, it is already taxed even if they use it as remittances...
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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Getting back on-topic, why can't the ITIN filers be able to use their tax refund credits anyway they chose if they legally qualify for them?...

I mean, it is already taxed even if they use it as remittances...
They can and do. But this is about illegals.
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Old 09-05-2011, 08:59 AM
 
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They can and do. But this is about illegals.
No it isn't. Did you even read the article posted by OP? It is about tax refunds to filers using ITIN numbers. The fact that people are trying to twist it around because they do not understand ITINs does not make it about illegals.
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Old 09-05-2011, 12:57 PM
 
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No it isn't. Did you even read the article posted by OP? It is about tax refunds to filers using ITIN numbers. The fact that people are trying to twist it around because they do not understand ITINs does not make it about illegals.
Look, people around here don't need to READ no fancy articles to know that them ILLEGALS IS ILLEGAL!
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Old 09-05-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: in a cabin overlooking the mountains
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Look, people around here don't need to READ no fancy articles to know that them ILLEGALS IS ILLEGAL!
Exactly.

Illegals are illegals.

And filers using ITINs are filers using ITINs. They are not "Illegals."

If you don't understand the difference, go read the IRS website on it.
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