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Old 01-04-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Of course there is an understanding that very few of these immigrants will be able to vote (in the time it takes to naturalize) in the next election cycle? How long does the process have to take to be considered legitimate? By the time my wife was interviewed for an immigrant visa, she was able to qualify for a ten-year Resident Card (and could have had a Military Dependent's ID Card, allowing her access to most U.S. bases in the United States and around the world, but not able to cross the border).
They vote. Many states are being threatened if they try to have a voter ID in place to limit voting to citizens. Texas for example.

There is a Mexcan radio show where an immigration lawyer actually is given air time to "help" illegals and suggests to them how they can get U visas. Recently it was where if the illegal is found with drugs, the illegal can claim the drugs were planted on him and therefore he is a victim and will be given a U visa.

All it takes now is claiming their cartel is out to get them back home or they are some kind of victim.
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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...even if fraud is feared

But high-ranking USCIS officials said the pressure has heightened after the Obama administration appointed Alejandro Mayorkas as director in August 2009 during an effort to pass comprehensive immigration reform, bringing with him a mantra of “get to yes.”


The Daily Exclusive: RUBBER STAMP - WWW.THEDAILY.COM
Why must donkeycrats always do everything bassackwards?
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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Just how is he trying to fix it?


By ignoring the laws on the book and doing exactly as he and his master 0-blamea wish to try and set up the next bunch to throw under the bus?

BTW, just how exactly do you think that the illegals support our "commerce and tourist industries" when they, by their own claims, come here broke?
Little of this is law it is mostly regulation and it is screwing up tourism and commerce.

What happens is you force commercial people into traveling as tourists and completely discourage tourists from some areas of the world.

You interfere with the lives of people here legally and unable to secure their appropriate status in reasonable time. Often you end up forcing people into doing things less than legal or prevent them from doing things like buying a home.

The subject has to do with legal, not illegal entree.
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:29 PM
 
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They vote. Many states are being threatened if they try to have a voter ID in place to limit voting to citizens. Texas for example.

There is a Mexcan radio show where an immigration lawyer actually is given air time to "help" illegals and suggests to them how they can get U visas. Recently it was where if the illegal is found with drugs, the illegal can claim the drugs were planted on him and therefore he is a victim and will be given a U visa.

All it takes now is claiming their cartel is out to get them back home or they are some kind of victim.
ID laws do not require proof of citizenship. Only of ID. If you got a DL you can vote, whether a citizen or not.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:27 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Little of this is law it is mostly regulation and it is screwing up tourism and commerce.

What happens is you force commercial people into traveling as tourists and completely discourage tourists from some areas of the world.

You interfere with the lives of people here legally and unable to secure their appropriate status in reasonable time. Often you end up forcing people into doing things less than legal or prevent them from doing things like buying a home.

The subject has to do with legal, not illegal entree.
100% wrong. What is happening is indeed specifically aimed at illegals. Your idea of affecting tourists (legal vistors) and discouraging them is just plain wrong.

As for forcing these illegals (and that is what these undocumented "vistors" are) is just an excuse for those like you to try and circumvent the laws of this country which is what makes them illegal.

Read the law or take a course. Then come back and try to argue this.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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Can't you people stay on subject? This deals with the operation of legal entree.
Don't you get it, or do you simply refuse to get it. It has to do with illegals, no matter how you wish to re-frame it. You can tell by all the illegals supporting it.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:05 PM
 
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From the article.

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Higher-ups within U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services are pressuring rank-and-file officers to rubber-stamp immigrants’ visa applications, sometimes against the officers’ will, according to a Homeland Security report and internal documents exclusively obtained by The Daily.
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Why on earth would the US be issuing visas to illegals?

From the article

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“When you’re dealing with business visas, those visas cannot wait around a year, or two years, for review. They needed an answer yesterday,” said Leopold. “I think when they’ve [the officers] made a mistake at that level ... sometimes you can just reason with people and ask them to take a look at it again.”
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YOu really think illegals are pursuing business visas?
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:00 AM
 
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From the article.

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Higher-ups within U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services are pressuring rank-and-file officers to rubber-stamp immigrants’ visa applications, sometimes against the officers’ will, according to a Homeland Security report and internal documents exclusively obtained by The Daily.
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Why on earth would the US be issuing visas to illegals?

From the article

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“When you’re dealing with business visas, those visas cannot wait around a year, or two years, for review. They needed an answer yesterday,” said Leopold. “I think when they’ve [the officers] made a mistake at that level ... sometimes you can just reason with people and ask them to take a look at it again.”
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You really think illegals are pursuing business visas?
Do you really think that these people seeking business visas are not already in this country illegally? Or that this is just another ruse by this administration to get what it wants by bypassing the laws on the books?

Time for you to wake up.
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Old 01-05-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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From the article.

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Higher-ups within U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services are pressuring rank-and-file officers to rubber-stamp immigrants’ visa applications, sometimes against the officers’ will, according to a Homeland Security report and internal documents exclusively obtained by The Daily.
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Why on earth would the US be issuing visas to illegals?

From the article

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“When you’re dealing with business visas, those visas cannot wait around a year, or two years, for review. They needed an answer yesterday,” said Leopold. “I think when they’ve [the officers] made a mistake at that level ... sometimes you can just reason with people and ask them to take a look at it again.”
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YOu really think illegals are pursuing business visas?
Pregnant women from the Middle East and Asia, especially India and Korea, seem to have no problem getting a visitors visa in time to have their children born here. There are hotels who advertise a package deal. For a certain amount, they'll provide a doctor, hospital, and hotel room for the mother until she's ready to return home with her new American citizen. I doubt a tourist visa is so much easier to get than a business visa. The ones which take so long are for people who want permanent residency, not the tourist, or the businessman.
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Old 01-05-2012, 01:10 PM
 
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Pregnant women from the Middle East and Asia, especially India and Korea, seem to have no problem getting a visitors visa in time to have their children born here. There are hotels who advertise a package deal. For a certain amount, they'll provide a doctor, hospital, and hotel room for the mother until she's ready to return home with her new American citizen. I doubt a tourist visa is so much easier to get than a business visa. The ones which take so long are for people who want permanent residency, not the tourist, or the businessman.
Tourist visa and light business are embassy things. a few days to a few months.

Business Visas are a different story.

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Conclusions and Analysis

The denial and/or delay in obtaining business travel visas have resulted in significant revenue losses and indirect costs for U.S. companies engaged in international trade since July 2002. It is estimated that for the period covering July 2002 to March 2004 U.S. companies suffered a financial impact of $30.7 billion in revenue loss and indirect costs as a direct result of visa processing delays and arbitrary denials. This was comprised of $25.53 billion in lost revenue and $5.15 billion in indirect costs.

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http://www.nftc.org/default/visasurv...ts%20final.pdf
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