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Old 04-09-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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The Dream Act is actually an amenity in disguise and to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Once those illegal minors become citizens, they can easily sponsor their parents and relatives.

Why make those minors suffer for what their parents have done? Well, it is simply not our problem. They are minors, so they are their parents' responsibility.

Please take them back to where you are from!

If they want to offer this deal, it should be offered to people who are here legally only.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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The Dream Act is actually an amenity in disguise and to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Once those illegal minors become citizens, they can easily sponsor their parents and relatives.

Why make those minors suffer for what their parents have done? Well, it is simply not our problem. They are minors, so they are their parents' responsibility.

Please take them back to where you are from!

If they want to offer this deal, it should be offered to people who are here legally only.
A "minor" U.S. citizen cannot be a sponsor for immigration. Once they turn 21, as a U.S. citizen they can sponsor only parents or siblings (under a quota-based system, variables of an adult and/or married sibling, can dramatically increase wait times). The parents have to serve out ban times to be sponsored, and under Rubio's plan, cannot naturalize to U.S. citizenship.
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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A "minor" U.S. citizen cannot be a sponsor for immigration. Once they turn 21, as a U.S. citizen they can sponsor only parents or siblings (under a quota-based system, variables of an adult and/or married sibling, can dramatically increase wait times). The parents have to serve out ban times to be sponsored, and under Rubio's plan, cannot naturalize to U.S. citizenship.
That is correct but so? They shouldn't be offered this amnesty to begin with.

Secondly, they should get in line to apply for immigration just like everybody else, if that means going back home.
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Old 04-09-2012, 04:59 PM
 
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A "minor" U.S. citizen cannot be a sponsor for immigration. Once they turn 21, as a U.S. citizen they can sponsor only parents or siblings (under a quota-based system, variables of an adult and/or married sibling, can dramatically increase wait times). The parents have to serve out ban times to be sponsored, and under Rubio's plan, cannot naturalize to U.S. citizenship.
These Dreamies aren't minors. They are adult children here illegally and so are their parents. Anything that allows them or their parents to remain here is amnesty. I think we all know that if any kind of Dream Act were to pass that the whining would start about the so-called cruelty of separating them from their parents so they would be allowed to stay also. We don't need them here competing for seats and tuition in our colleges or for jobs. Not only that but these adult Dreamies are likely to have children on our soil which means they would be entitled to all kinds of taxpayer benefits. We don't need all this population growth added permanently to our nation.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Ruben Navarrette:

I knew there was a reason I 'friended' Ruben on Facebook, and the agreements and disagreements we've had since then...

This is an agreement...
I've actually exchanged some emails with Ruben as well and I've always found him fair although we disagree.

He didn't articulate the finer points of the bill though in the article. Besides not getting citizenship what else does it involve.
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:34 PM
 
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A "minor" U.S. citizen cannot be a sponsor for immigration. Once they turn 21, as a U.S. citizen they can sponsor only parents or siblings (under a quota-based system, variables of an adult and/or married sibling, can dramatically increase wait times). The parents have to serve out ban times to be sponsored, and under Rubio's plan, cannot naturalize to U.S. citizenship.
All the more reason not to give an illegal citizenship. No one should be allowed to drag a child here, demand we educate said child and then further demand we allow the child to sponsor them to citizenship after they've brazenly broken our immigration laws.

This whole dream act is nothing but backdoor amnesty that only serves to reward criminal behavior and insult those who play by our immigration laws. If your parents drag you here they can very well drag you back home.

That particular article is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Americans do not owe Mexican nationals anything at all just because their arrogant parents thumbed their noses at our laws. If they want a better life let them go demand it from their own leaders instead of the overburdened American taxpayer.

If young illegals want American citizenship let them finally follow the rules and apply for it like any other foriegn national. But the decision to grant them citizenship should be ours not theirs.
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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All the more reason not to give an illegal citizenship. No one should be allowed to drag a child here, demand we educate said child and then further demand we allow the child to sponsor them to citizenship after they've brazenly broken our immigration laws.

This whole dream act is nothing but backdoor amnesty that only serves to reward criminal behavior and insult those who play by our immigration laws. If your parents drag you here they can very well drag you back home.

That particular article is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Americans do not owe Mexican nationals anything at all just because their arrogant parents thumbed their noses at our laws. If they want a better life let them go demand it from their own leaders instead of the overburdened American taxpayer.

If young illegals want American citizenship let them finally follow the rules and apply for it like any other foriegn national. But the decision to grant them citizenship should be ours not theirs.
No to DREAM act. It's a carrot for more illegals just like the last so called "one and only amnesty".
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Old 04-15-2012, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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I've actually exchanged some emails with Ruben as well and I've always found him fair although we disagree.

He didn't articulate the finer points of the bill though in the article. Besides not getting citizenship what else does it involve.
Ruben gets all kinds of responses, the more amusing "Reader Mail" gets put on his page. He is (as am I) ultimately Conservative. Most of my views follow his, although we do differ in some areas.
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