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Old 05-29-2012, 04:08 AM
 
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Not to be racist or anything, as someone who wants to immigrate somewhere else myself, I empathize with more lenient immigration laws and amnesty. But why is it easy for people from Latin America to immigrate to the states illegally, and hard for others to immigrate illegally to other countries aside from the states?
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:29 AM
 
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Not to be racist or anything, as someone who wants to immigrate somewhere else myself, I empathize with more lenient immigration laws and amnesty. But why is it easy for people from Latin America to immigrate to the states illegally, and hard for others to immigrate illegally to other countries aside from the states?
Because the US:
doesn't secure it's borders.
doesn't enforce the law with regard to illegals.
would rather look away than address the problem.
coddles and protects illegals.
gives illegals the same rights as US citizens. To deny them the same rights as American citizens would be infringing on their human rights.
puts US citizens second to illegals.
gives handouts and citizenship to children born on American soil and call them "citizens" when neither parent is a US citizen.
provides free medical.
doesn't penalize companies that hire illegals.

Fix the above and the US would not be a very desirable country for people to enter illegally. Unfortunately because of the above, it is the number 1 country for people to enter illegally.

I live in a country where there were quite a few people here illegally. The government gave them amnesty. That amnesty gave them one week to leave the country without penalty. Those that did not leave, if found, were arrested, no trial, served their prison sentence and were deported - went from jail to airport, no stops in between. We all carry an national ID card. No card: you don't get to rent an apartment, buy a car, get a job, get medical care. It's and ID card proving that you are in the country legally - it's not a tracking device.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:48 AM
 
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Not to be racist or anything, as someone who wants to immigrate somewhere else myself, I empathize with more lenient immigration laws and amnesty. But why is it easy for people from Latin America to immigrate to the states illegally, and hard for others to immigrate illegally to other countries aside from the states?
Immigration laws along with annual quotas are in place for all countries including the U.S. for good reasons. No country can allow everyone who wants to migrate there to do so. Amnesty is never the solution for those who violate immigration laws. The reason it is easy to migrate here illegally is because of the politicians in our government who would destroy our country for money, power and votes that are not securing our borders, not advocating for internal enforcement and putting every bit of enticement possible out there to allow illegal immigration to continue. Most country's governments aren't as stupid as ours is.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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No other country in the world has no immigration laws and no borders.

We have them but our government does not enforce the laws or borders. In fact we are the only country that actually rewards all those who come here illegally and break any of our laws that inconveniences them.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:24 PM
 
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I live in a country where there were quite a few people here illegally. The government gave them amnesty. That amnesty gave them one week to leave the country without penalty. Those that did not leave, if found, were arrested, no trial, served their prison sentence and were deported - went from jail to airport, no stops in between. We all carry an national ID card. No card: you don't get to rent an apartment, buy a car, get a job, get medical care. It's and ID card proving that you are in the country legally - it's not a tracking device.
Where do you live?
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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Immigration laws along with annual quotas are in place for all countries including the U.S. for good reasons. No country can allow everyone who wants to migrate there to do so. Amnesty is never the solution for those who violate immigration laws. The reason it is easy to migrate here illegally is because of the politicians in our government who would destroy our country for money, power and votes that are not securing our borders, not advocating for internal enforcement and putting every bit of enticement possible out there to allow illegal immigration to continue. Most country's governments aren't as stupid as ours is.
Can't say I agree with this. Of course countries can't allow everyone a chance to just come on in. I understand that. If they did it the world would be chaotic because some countries would have too many people, some too few, and some no people at all. But the immigration laws that most countries currently have are unjust and ridiculous. They make it almost impossible for some to immigrate there. Most people I've met that are in favor of tighter immigration laws are the ones that have never had any desire or ever had to worry about trying to live somewhere else.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:44 PM
 
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Can't say I agree with this. Of course countries can't allow everyone a chance to just come on in. I understand that. If they did it the world would be chaotic because some countries would have too many people, some too few, and some no people at all. But the immigration laws that most countries currently have are unjust and ridiculous. They make it almost impossible for some to immigrate there. Most people I've met that are in favor of tighter immigration laws are the ones that have never had any desire or ever had to worry about trying to live somewhere else.
Unjust and ridiculous based on what? Your opinion? Why do people migrate? Whats the reason behind it?
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:46 PM
 
Location: southern california
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social engineering
our government wants illegal immigration. pretended helplessness.
the 20 million illegals and the 3 million plus granted amnesty b4 them pushed the AA out of choice urban areas opening them up to recolonization. the ghettos have been reclaimed.
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Old 05-30-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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Not to be racist or anything, as someone who wants to immigrate somewhere else myself, I empathize with more lenient immigration laws and amnesty. But why is it easy for people from Latin America to immigrate to the states illegally, and hard for others to immigrate illegally to other countries aside from the states?
American corporations want illegal immigration, and want American corporations want, American corporations get, this applies to everything, not just IE.

Money is usually at the bottom of most issues, whether people want to admit it or not.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:35 AM
 
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Unjust and ridiculous based on what? Your opinion? Why do people migrate? Whats the reason behind it?
Unjust and ridiculous, because they make it next to impossible for most to achieve. Most ppl are not rich, so can't immigrate as business investors. Not everyone has family in another country. Not everyone is willing or able to take the risk of "getting married" for papers. Most people can't afford to study as a foreign student because of international student fees. And most people don't qualify as skilled workers. For the most part to have a chance at being a skilled worker, you have to be educated up the wazoo. A bachelor's degree alone won't usually qualify you to apply for P.R. In my case, I've already decided that I'm gonna need at least a master's to have a fighting chance.

People migrant mostly because of a desire for a better life.
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