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Old 10-19-2012, 12:19 AM
 
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So you are making allegations that Arthur Redelfs, who was a Detention Officer with El Paso County Sheriff's Office for 10 years, his wife pregnant wife Leslie Enriquez, a Consulate employee, and Jorge Alberto Salcido Ceniceros, a state police officer married to another Consular employee, were corrupt? Do you even realize part of the process to know the impossibility of "selling visas" from the U.S. Consulate? Didn't Ricardo "Chino" Valles de la Rosa, the gang member implicated in the hit, say that they targeted Redelfs because he was hard on gang members in the detention facility?

That goes against how the El Paso County Sheriff's Office praised Redelfs after his death:



"Well-respected", except by you with baseless allegations...

I think I have a new way to define you now...
Actually it was in the news a few years before about the visa selling at that same Consulate.

If they targeted Redelfs because he was a tough detention officer then why the separate hit on the other Consulate employee? Redelf was respected --- I never said he wasn't. One of the first Aztecas they picked up said that Juarez cartel ordered the hit because of visa selling to the other cartel.

If you know anything at all about this case then I'm sure you also know about Jesus Ernesto Chávez Castillo also --- one of the first ones caught:

Consulate-slaying suspect in S.A. court - San Antonio Express-News

In a statement on its website, the Mexican Ministry of Public Security said Chavez worked for a Mexican drug cartel known as "La Linea," or "The Line."

A member of "Los Aztecas," or the Barrio Azteca gang of El Paso, he told authorities he was ordered to arrange the killing by gang members.

The gang operates in both border cities.

The gang was angered because consulate worker Lesley Enriquez was helping members of a rival gang obtain visas to the United States, the statement said.


Read more: Consulate-slaying suspect in S.A. court - San Antonio Express-News

And so you can read up a little more on this case -- the famous El Diego of La Linea:

USDOJ: Juarez Drug Cartel Leader Pleads Guilty to Charges Related to U.S. Consulate Murders and Is Sentenced to Life in Prison

According to information presented in court, on March 13, 2010, Enriquez, her husband Redelfs, and Salcido, the Mexican national husband of a second U.S. Consulate employee, were shot and killed by other BA members in Juarez in separate but related incidents. (it would be difficult to see how the Mexican national husband would be related to a jail detention officer being too tough)

During the hearing, Acosta-Hernandez acknowledged that Salcido, Enriquez and Redelfs were murdered by members and associates of the BA to further the gang’s racketeering activities. Acosta-Hernandez admitted that at the time, under his leadership as VCF’s plaza boss and coordinator of enforcement actions with the BA in Juarez, La Linea and the BA had agreed to unite and commit murders to further their criminal enterprise.

Cae El Camello; planeó crimen de diplomática y estudiantes

El asesinato de Lesley A. Enríquez fue ordenado por La Línea, ya que la víctima facilitaba trámites a gente del El Chapo Guzmán, declara Jesús Ernesto Chávez, quien dotó de armas a los sicarios.

Mexico: Suspect arrested in U.S. consulate shooting deaths - CNN

It was La Linea that ordered the killing of U.S. consulate employee Lesley Enriquez, the police official said.

Borderland Beat: Two "Barrio Azteca" Gangmembers Arrested for Murder of U.S. Consulate Employee

Chávez Castillo told police investigators that members of the Juárez drug cartel ordered the murder of Enriquez because she facilitated passports (visas) to members of the Sinaloa cartel.

Consulate slayings mastermind in Texas - El Paso Times

José Ramón Salinas, spokes man for the Mexican federal police in Juárez, said in July that Chávez told authorities that Juárez drug cartel members who live in the United States conspired to kill Enriquez Redelfs because she smoothed the way when issuing visas to members of the Sinaloa cartel.

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Old 10-19-2012, 01:12 AM
 
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...According to information presented in court, on March 13, 2010, Enriquez, her husband Redelfs, and Salcido, the Mexican national husband of a second U.S. Consulate employee, were shot and killed by other BA members in Juarez in separate but related incidents. (it would be difficult to see how the Mexican national husband would be related to a jail detention officer being too tough)...
Similar vehicles, as reported? The notion of "selling" or "arranging" visas fails with all of the steps that are required before the Consulate personnel do their processing. Even a few different employees together could not put it off (I've been inside the old complex, have you?).

I relate the statement from the Mexican authorities about Chavez alleging his gang was angered by Lesley Enriquez arranging visas for a rival gang as a "PGR confession". Suspects get beat up, strange things come out. Got a source for the earlier "visa selling" story?
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:53 AM
 
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Well--- how can you know for sure -- strange things go on in El Paso as well -- remember -- El Paso and Juarez are two sides of the same coin, drugs and other contraband leave Juarez, drugs and other contraband enter El Paso.

Not One But Two Juárez Arrests? - Border Reporter


Well, that was yesterday. Citing Díario, the media went after the story whole-heartedly. Everyone from CNN to The Times reported that Valles was the probable killer.

Now, The El Paso Times reports today, it wasn’t Valles. But adding to the confusion is this very precise accounting from La Polaka. The news Web site reports Valles admitted to the prosecutor’s office that he was given orders to follow the white vehicles carrying Lesley Enriquez, her husband Arthur Redelfs and, in the separate SUV, Alberto Salcido. The PGR claimed Valles admitted to this. Now, they’re not saying he was the triggerman; they’re claiming he was ran recon on the vehicles. He claimed he heard the gunshots. But who did he run recon on?

On visa fraud - there have been a number of incidents that made the news:

TEMPORARY SUSPENSION OF VISA PROCESSING IN U.S. CONSULATE GENERAL IN CIUDAD JUAREZ - US Embassy Mexico City

U.S. Ambassador to Mexico, Antonio O. Garza, Jr., said in Mexico City: "Our objective in suspending visa operations in our consulate in Ciudad Juarez is to protect the integrity of the processing and issuance of visas."

The U.S. diplomatic envoy added: "We apologize for any inconvenience this temporary suspension may cause for Mexican citizens. However, visa fraud is a serious crime that threatens U.S. security, and we have zero tolerance for it. There will be a thorough investigation, and anyone who this investigation determines committed visa fraud will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law."
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:44 AM
 
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So you are making allegations that Arthur Redelfs, who was a Detention Officer with El Paso County Sheriff's Office for 10 years, his wife pregnant wife Leslie Enriquez, a Consulate employee, and Jorge Alberto Salcido Ceniceros, a state police officer married to another Consular employee, were corrupt? Do you even realize part of the process to know the impossibility of "selling visas" from the U.S. Consulate? Didn't Ricardo "Chino" Valles de la Rosa, the gang member implicated in the hit, say that they targeted Redelfs because he was hard on gang members in the detention facility?

That goes against how the El Paso County Sheriff's Office praised Redelfs after his death:



"Well-respected", except by you with baseless allegations...

I think I have a new way to define you now...
Interesting though that you think that the Border Patrol were not the innocents in the rock throwing incidents.
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