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View Poll Results: If amnesty passes will you ever accept these people as fellow Americans?
Yes 16 26.67%
If they learn English, Americanize, etc etc 9 15.00%
No 35 58.33%
Voters: 60. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-28-2013, 02:49 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I never will. No matter what Obama does, these people will always be illegal to me. I will never accept them into my community or see them as my equals. And if they move to my neighborhood, myself and many around here will certainly, within the law (something they don't understand) make it clear to them that they are not welcome here.

And now thanks to Obamacare, all these people will also be benefiting from socialized medicine after being rewarded for their criminal acts. So obama truly was lying when he said that Obamacare will not benefit illegal aliens. And thi is he worst because there is no undoing this. Even Obamacare can be repealed and undone, maybe not in the next few years but in the future it is technically possible. Once these illegals get citizenship however we cannot go back there is no way constitutionally to remove their citizenship and make them illegal again and deport them. The arrogance of illegal aliens is disgusting enough it will only get worse.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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I never will. No matter what Obama does, these people will always be illegal to me. I will never accept them into my community or see them as my equals. And if they move to my neighborhood, myself and many around here will certainly, within the law (something they don't understand) make it clear to them that they are not welcome here.

And now thanks to Obamacare, all these people will also be benefiting from socialized medicine after being rewarded for their criminal acts. So obama truly was lying when he said that Obamacare will not benefit illegal aliens. And thi is he worst because there is no undoing this. Even Obamacare can be repealed and undone, maybe not in the next few years but in the future it is technically possible. Once these illegals get citizenship however we cannot go back there is no way constitutionally to remove their citizenship and make them illegal again and deport them. The arrogance of illegal aliens is disgusting enough it will only get worse.
My contempt and resentment will be and always has been for their supporters who blackmailed our politicians into caving into an amnesty especially those who did so based on a shared ethnicity. If not for their supporters these illegal immigrants would have been sent home packing long ago.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:25 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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I never will. No matter what Obama does, these people will always be illegal to me.
Mighty harsh, unforgiving words. Did you feel similarly when the Congress approved amnesty during the Reagan years? By the way, this isn't the "Obama' plan, it'll have to be a Congressional plan. Supported fully, or not, by the President ... but the distinction is important.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Mighty harsh, unforgiving words. Did you feel similarly when the Congress approved amnesty during the Reagan years? By the way, this isn't the "Obama' plan, it'll have to be a Congressional plan. Supported fully, or not, by the President ... but the distinction is important.
I don't see your need to rub it in. They took it on the chin pretty hard, and probably don't need to be reminded about not realizing what was going to happen by ignoring it until 2007.

I'd wait about 10 years before being so smug about it. I don't think you're going to like the results of this very much.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:17 PM
 
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No.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:20 PM
 
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No. But even more so, I will never forgive those who betrayed this country.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I don't see your need to rub it in. They took it on the chin pretty hard, and probably don't need to be reminded about not realizing what was going to happen by ignoring it until 2007.

I'd wait about 10 years before being so smug about it. I don't think you're going to like the results of this very much.
Just wait until there are about 15 million (or more) unskilled, non-english speaking people out there. All
of them working for "cash only' while they collect welfare, wick, food stamps and section 8 housing. Then
multiply that number by 4 ( got to bring Mom & Pop + cousins and nephews).

All that cheap labor plus free health care. What do you thnk thats going to do to compound the economic
drop we already have. 17 trillion in debt and now amnesty ? Obozo must have sh-t for brains.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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Just wait until there are about 15 million (or more) unskilled, non-english speaking people out there. All
of them working for "cash only' while they collect welfare, wick, food stamps and section 8 housing. Then
multiply that number by 4 ( got to bring Mom & Pop + cousins and nephews).

All that cheap labor plus free health care. What do you thnk thats going to do to compound the economic
drop we already have. 17 trillion in debt and now amnesty ? Obozo must have sh-t for brains.
No, I don't think Obama is dumb at all! He knows what he's doing. What I don't understand is the "why." And it isn't just him. I actually heard Rubio say that after this "immigration reform," we would never do this again. Yet I read where the same thing was said back in 1986. They just can't all be stupid, can they?
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Nope. They will never be "fellow americans" in my eyes. Can't just waltz into my country (Illegally), mooch off the government, and bring this country down to its knees and expect me to accept you.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:36 PM
 
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No, I don't think Obama is dumb at all! He knows what he's doing. What I don't understand is the "why." And it isn't just him. I actually heard Rubio say that after this "immigration reform," we would never do this again. Yet I read where the same thing was said back in 1986. They just can't all be stupid, can they?
I don't think that Reagan did it for votes. Not sure what his motive was. Obama on the other hand.... It really is dumb to sell your country down the river for votes and power, IMO. As you said in another post it certainly is a betrayal.
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