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The only real way to prevent illegal immigration is to insure no way to earn a living. That is impossible. Americans will cheat so much it is impossible for the government to effectively enforce. Another approach: Repeal NAFTA. Get our companies out of their markets with cheap American agriculture products. Make it feasible for peasants to survive without heading north. That is the real question. Is there ANY way to fight off the corporations getting wealthy this way? With our present political realities after Citizens v. United? As longs as our companies make beggars out of Latin American countries, their people will show up on our doorstep. And "conservatives" won't lead the charge against NAFTA. They can't.
It isn't impossible for them not to be able to work in this country with e-verify implemented across the board. Sure some may still work under the table but not most. It isn't only big corporations reaping profits from cheap, illegal labor. In fact I would be willing to bet that it is mostly smaller companies that hire them. Here we go with the attack conservatives stuff again. Both parties are equally guilty. What is stopping either party from ending NAFTA? Wasn't NAFTA implemented under Clinton?
If we legalize the ones here, we won't mitigate illegal immigration as more people will continue to migrate to the US uninspected. Borders won't help. However, there's something that needs to be done for those who came to the country as toddlers and have no recollection of their country of origin. It's inhumane to send them to an unfamiliar environment.
It's a sticky situation.
Those brought here by their parents at a young age are taught the language and culture of their homeland by their parents. Many of them still have relatives back in their homeland so your argument holds no water. American kids and many other kids re-locate because their parents got a job elsewhere or for other reasons. It isn't traumatic. Kids adjust well. Inhumane? I have never thought moving into a different environment was considered inhumane. It happens all the time.
Mexico is a huge country. You can't use your experience in Mexico City to argue how Mexico is prosperous. Most illegals are not from Mexico City. Furthermore, there are primitive conditions in Mexico.
But it isn't our problem. Mexico's citizens are Mexico's problem. We have enough of our own poor and destitute to worry about and deal with.
Mexico is a huge country. You can't use your experience in Mexico City to argue how Mexico is prosperous. Most illegals are not from Mexico City. Furthermore, there are primitive conditions in Mexico.
There are primitive conditions in the USA also. It doesn't matter where the illegals are from, they are not from the USA, but when they get back to their own country, it's up to them to decide where in it they wish to live. They can go live in some tiny village or they can go to one of their bigger cities.
Just like in the USA, you can live in some remote tiny place that lacks a post office or you can life in New York City.
I'm just saying that each country has a big city that is more modern and international if that's their gripe about their own country.
Those brought here by their parents at a young age are taught the language and culture of their homeland by their parents. Many of them still have relatives back in their homeland so your argument holds no water. American kids and many other kids re-locate because their parents got a job elsewhere or for other reasons. It isn't traumatic. Kids adjust well. Inhumane? I have never thought moving into a different environment was considered inhumane. It happens all the time.
When it comes to Mexico, it's not even hard for an American student not speaking any Spanish to get adjusted to life there. And you learn the language even if you never used it at home. The immersion method works well, and people in Mexico are actually very helpful when you don't speak the language. How much more welcoming they would be toward their own people returning home.
For those illegally here from China, there are all kinds of international trades kind of jobs, if they learned English, they would be at an advantage, Americans are also living in China and doing great. The Irish would have no trouble at all if they go back home, Ireland isn't primitive by any stretch.
To repeat one of my points: NAFTA created a rural crisis in Mexico. Whatever advantages it brings to rich nations, it also helps trigger a huge northern migration. Face it, we have to bite the bullet and restore the ability of peasants to live in rural Latin America. Most of us aren't really profiting from beggaring them,anyway.
To repeat one of my points: NAFTA created a rural crisis in Mexico. Whatever advantages it brings to rich nations, it also helps trigger a huge northern migration. Face it, we have to bite the bullet and restore the ability of peasants to live in rural Latin America. Most of us aren't really profiting from beggaring them,anyway.
It is up to Mexico to create jobs for their own citizens not us. NAFTA has negatively impacted our own citizens also.
Actually, most of us do not want our borders closed. There are and should be legal ports of entry. There are three motives that I can come up with that makes one a pro-illegal. Cheap labor, ethnic ties and pandering to a certain group for their votes. None are a viable defense.
Actually, I should have said "legal immigration" instead of borders closed. Borders secured against the inflow of illegals, perhaps, is a better way to express that.
Joe Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00.
Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0 0 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and Local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year.
Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has 9,631 .00.
Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year.
Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc..
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same elementary school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches, while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
Now, when they reach college age, Joe Legal's kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State Schools through his taxes, while Jose Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a minority.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
As mentioned, some form of this legislation will pass, just not a pathway to citizenship (which should not be in anyway passed).
The fact that many contractors and other businesses are intentionally suppressing wages in order to not pay income tax and receive welfare and other handouts is outrageous.
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