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Old 04-19-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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She should have to immigrate like any one else in her country would. Someone in her country that hasn't broken our laws should actually be given preference. She should be sent home, she can get in line behind all those ahead of her. She can learn a good job skill while she's waiting -- one that might get her a chance at a work visa.
Why, if they have no other qualifications to immigrate? "Nova" has only recently started accruing illegal presence (it starts at 18 years, 181 days, and she is 19 years old). She qualifies for DACA, and can submit a petition for work authorization (I-765) on top of that.

It's all the same difference if she is returning here (the only country she has known for 14 years), right? Rather than some long shot at employer-sponsored immigration, she pays the fees herself. It's not like she is gaining any legal status or citizenship as a DACA applicant.
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Old 04-19-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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Again always the same with you, bringing ethnicity into the discussion! Yac is right, for ilelgal immigration, ethnicity never escapes most of you. Besides, she is a white European, there is no cultural or demographic change if her "kind" gets amnesty so you can sleep safe and sound at night
And what's wrong with that? Are we asked to press 2 for German on the phone? Are employment ads asking for bi-lingual Italian workers? How many advocacy groups are there for Asian illegals? Who was marching in our streets demanding amnesty and telling non-Hispanic white Americans to go back to Europe because they are illegal in their own country (which is quite the hypocricy anyway since their white ancestors were also from Europe aka Spain). Why does the truth bother you so much that 80% of illegals are Latinos and therefore get the most focus while you completely ignore that we still want all illegals deported. Since we have 80% here illegally from the same cultural and lingual group you can't say with a straight face that it isn't making changes to our country's identity. Colonization is occurring not assimilation. Yac seems fair to me so why would he view posting facts in a negative way?

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Old 04-19-2014, 01:34 PM
 
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Why, if they have no other qualifications to immigrate? "Nova" has only recently started accruing illegal presence (it starts at 18 years, 181 days, and she is 19 years old). She qualifies for DACA, and can submit a petition for work authorization (I-765) on top of that.

It's all the same difference if she is returning here (the only country she has known for 14 years), right? Rather than some long shot at employer-sponsored immigration, she pays the fees herself. It's not like she is gaining any legal status or citizenship as a DACA applicant.
If she qualifies for DACA then what exactly was her purpose in waililng and boohooing at the Hillary event?
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Old 04-19-2014, 01:38 PM
 
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Why, if they have no other qualifications to immigrate? "Nova" has only recently started accruing illegal presence (it starts at 18 years, 181 days, and she is 19 years old). She qualifies for DACA, and can submit a petition for work authorization (I-765) on top of that.

It's all the same difference if she is returning here (the only country she has known for 14 years), right? Rather than some long shot at employer-sponsored immigration, she pays the fees herself. It's not like she is gaining any legal status or citizenship as a DACA applicant.
I would be for a point system for legal immigration.

Illegal presence in the USA should be negative points -- but fluent English should be positive points and there should be other negative and positive points -- if someone in her country knew English very well and had never broken a law here including immigration status, that person should have an advantage over this one, but if that totally legal person knew no English then maybe they would be matched in points or Nova would have the edge.

Points should be given for a variety of other factors - other job skills.
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Old 04-19-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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Why, if they have no other qualifications to immigrate? "Nova" has only recently started accruing illegal presence (it starts at 18 years, 181 days, and she is 19 years old). She qualifies for DACA, and can submit a petition for work authorization (I-765) on top of that.

It's all the same difference if she is returning here (the only country she has known for 14 years), right? Rather than some long shot at employer-sponsored immigration, she pays the fees herself. It's not like she is gaining any legal status or citizenship as a DACA applicant.
If she is qualified for DACA (a program I disapprove of by the way) then why is she whining and crying to Hillary about her predicament? Oops, I see that Malamute already asked that question.
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Old 04-19-2014, 01:40 PM
 
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If she qualifies for DACA then what exactly was her purpose in waililng and boohooing at the Hillary event?
If I had to guess, I would guess that DACA isn't good enough for her. She thinks that this country owes her a green card.

So what if she has been here for 14 years? We, as a nation, owe her nothing.

She needs to stop her whining and apply for DACA, even though (hopefully) DACA will eventually get repealed.
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Old 04-19-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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Again always the same with you, bringing ethnicity into the discussion! Yac is right, for ilelgal immigration, ethnicity never escapes most of you. Besides, she is a white European, there is no cultural or demographic change if her "kind" gets amnesty so you can sleep safe and sound at night
To me, the race or ethnicity of an illegal alien doesn't matter one iota. She should be sent home.

I do think some people who oppose illegal immigration are racists. With that being said, there are tons of people who are simply against the problems illegal immigration causes.
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Old 04-19-2014, 01:56 PM
 
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To me, the race or ethnicity of an illegal alien doesn't matter one iota. She should be sent home.

I do think some people who oppose illegal immigration are racists. With that being said, there are tons of people who are simply against the problems illegal immigration causes.
It goes both ways. There are racists on the cheer leader's side of illegal immigration also.
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Old 04-19-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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If I had to guess, I would guess that DACA isn't good enough for her. She thinks that this country owes her a green card...
As far as work authorization, filing an I-765 while under DACA provides the same thing. No path to citizenship, and quite a bit more petition filing and fees however. If that is the "pound of flesh" people want for her having less than a year and a half of "illegal presence", so be it, she does seem driven to improve herself.

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...So what if she has been here for 14 years? We, as a nation, owe her nothing.

She needs to stop her whining and apply for DACA, even though (hopefully) DACA will eventually get repealed.
Applying for DACA (if she hasn't done so already, she does qualify) is much better advice than to somehow filing for U.S. citizenship or employment from outside the United States...
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Old 04-19-2014, 03:46 PM
 
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As far as work authorization, filing an I-765 while under DACA provides the same thing. No path to citizenship, and quite a bit more petition filing and fees however. If that is the "pound of flesh" people want for her having less than a year and a half of "illegal presence", so be it, she does seem driven to improve herself.

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And you want what exactly? Do you want us to automatically give her a green card?

If she is so driven to improve herself, she can do so in her own country. After all, plenty of people in her country have improved themselves.
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