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Old 11-11-2012, 11:53 AM
 
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1986 - "There will be NO more amnesty. We WILL secure our borders!"

They lied. And now we're supposed to trust them? Last time it was 3 million. This time, 11-12 million plus

None of the respect this country or our culture.

 
Old 11-11-2012, 05:39 PM
 
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Obama certainly lied before the 2008 election when he said illegals would not be moved to the front of the line and would have to learn English blah blah blah.

Instead he's proposing a big blanket amnesty where they most certainly will be moved to the front of the line, rewarded mightily for having broken a whole number of laws. One of his amnesty plans is to let illegals "adjust" their social security numbers from the stolen ones to new ones but it's also hinted they'll be able to receive nice American social security checks for the time they stole someone's number and fraudulently used it.

Just get here illegally and all will be fantastic for you.
 
Old 11-11-2012, 07:59 PM
 
Location: AL
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More Obama voters...thats why it will happen!

The govt keeps throwing legal Americans under the bus....why don't Americans open their mouth and say NO.

Cowards I guess.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 08:02 AM
 
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Somehow they always use the word immigration reform or path to citizenship.

This legal path has somehow it has worked for millions of others.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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Somehow they always use the word immigration reform or path to citizenship.

This legal path has somehow it has worked for millions of others.
It's called twisting the truth.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: AL
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To me the bigger picture is that legal Latino Americans are more concerned with illegals then their own American country men.
So much for have an allegiance to your country.

This is what wrong with this picture and its sickening!
 
Old 11-12-2012, 10:10 AM
 
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To me the bigger picture is that legal Latino Americans are more concerned with illegals then their own American country men.
So much for have an allegiance to your country.

This is what wrong with this picture and its sickening!
Tho many American Hispanics don't want even Hispanic illegal aliens around because it hurt's their rep.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: SF
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It may surprise many people, but even the most liberal San Franciscans that I know, support ending illegal immigration. They are beginning to see for themselves the high cost to society both fiscally and socially.

A baby born to illegal immigrant parents from Mexico spends eight months (his entire life) in the neonatal ICU (NICU) due to severe birth defects affecting major abdominal organs. ICUs per day can cost anywhere from $10,000-$25,000 on average. California happens to fall in the upper range. But just to be conservative, let's multiply $10,000 by 240 days, we would get $2,400,000. This cost does not include stepdown care, home health RN care, home medical equipments, prescription medications, and other ancillary services provided for the baby after he leaves the NICU in the transition to home discharge.

The parents have seven older children and even several grandchildren. None of the kids have education past high school and those who are in grade school cannot speak English well. Towards the end of the baby's ICU stay, the team treating the baby decides the only way for him to survive is to have a bowel transplant. Such procedures are often last resorts with poor outcomes. So the baby gets medically worked up for the transplant. Unfortunately he was rejected from the transplant due to his weakened health-- he would not even survive the surgery itself. That is the final verdict. The baby's parents begin to accuse the team of racial and economic bias. No amount of education via translators can convince them otherwise. They are barely literate in Spanish, let alone able to comprehend basic science behind organ transplant. The baby suffers for a brief, few weeks before dying.

Couple of years pass, another baby comes into the NICU, this time the young mother looks very familiar. It turns out she is one of the daughters of the illegal immigrant couple whose baby had died at the exact hospital. This time however it is their grandchild who is undergoing lifesaving treatments. The very premature baby struggles in the NICU for 3-4 months, long enough for the social worker to set up paperwork needed for subsidized housing and welfare benefits for both parents and baby upon discharge from hospital. However the baby suddenly dies from seizures and respiratory failure. The 18year-old mother and her unemployed boyfriend become distraught not at losing their baby but at the reality of losing benefits and housing. Two to three months later this young woman proudly announces that she is pregnant again and talks excitedly of getting to keep subsidized housing.

The story I just told is but one of many abuses in the system that either I have seen or have heard from other healthcare providers. People have to wake up and demand fairness not lunacy when it comes to illegal immigration. Do it before the situation is hopeless, it's already close to that point now.

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Old 11-12-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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Manesty i the 80's bill did work ;so why would we expect anther to work. I don't see how those that suport that one with what they promised would occur can ask the same agin.Form what happend when propose agai duirg bush adminsitratio;it's going happen.Ther si a reson Obama made the remporary dream act not a law;he said he could egt it appsed;clear and simple. A amnsty has less chnace.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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It may surprise many people, but even the most liberal San Franciscans that I know, support ending illegal immigration. They are beginning to see for themselves the high cost to society both fiscally and socially.

A baby born to illegal immigrant parents from Mexico spends eight months (his entire life) in the neonatal ICU (NICU) due to severe birth defects affecting major abdominal organs. ICUs per day can cost anywhere from $10,000-$25,000 on average. California happens to fall in the upper range. But just to be conservative, let's multiply $10,000 by 240 days, we would get $2,400,000. This cost does not include stepdown care, home health RN care, home medical equipments, prescription medications, and other ancillary services provided for the baby after he leaves the NICU in the transition to home discharge.

The parents have seven older children and even several grandchildren. None of the kids have education past high school and those who are in grade school cannot speak English well. Towards the end of the baby's ICU stay, the team treating the baby decides the only way for him to survive is to have a bowel transplant. Such procedures are often last resorts with poor outcomes. So the baby gets medically worked up for the transplant. Unfortunately he was rejected from the transplant due to his weakened health-- he would not even survive the surgery itself. That is the final verdict. The baby's parents begin to accuse the team of racial and economic bias. No amount of education via translators can convince them otherwise. They are barely literate in Spanish, let alone able to comprehend basic science behind organ transplant. The baby suffers for a brief, few weeks before dying.

Couple of years pass, another baby comes into the NICU, this time the young mother looks very familiar. It turns out she is one of the daughters of the illegal immigrant couple whose baby had died at the exact hospital. This time however it is their grandchild who is undergoing lifesaving treatments. The very premature baby struggles in the NICU for 3-4 months, long enough for the social worker to set up paperwork needed for subsidized housing and welfare benefits for both parents and baby upon discharge from hospital. However the baby suddenly dies from seizures and respiratory failure. The 18year-old mother and her unemployed boyfriend become distraught not at losing their baby but at the reality of losing benefits and housing. Two to three months later this young woman proudly announces that she is pregnant again and talks excitedly of getting to keep subsidized housing.

The story I just told is but one of many abuses in the system that either I have seen or have heard from other healthcare providers. People have to wake up and demand fairness not lunacy when it comes to illegal immigration. Do it before the situation is hopeless, it's already close to that point now.
That's scary when even "SF libs" are getting pissed of at the illegal aliens. I just hope they're pissed off enough to DO something like you said.
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