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"U.S. Immigration records. Line 133 notes "Friedr. Trumpf." age 16, born in Kallstadt, Germany.
In 1885, at age 16, Trump immigrated via Bremen, Germany, to the United States aboard the steamship Eider, departing on October 7[3]:32 and arriving at the Castle Garden Emigrant Landing Depot in New York City on October 19. As he had not yet served the mandatory military duty of two years in the Kingdom of Bavaria, this emigration was illegal.[13] U.S. immigration records list his name as "Friedr. Trumpf" and his occupation as "none".[14]
"Bavarian authorities accused him of emigrating when he was too young to avoid fulfilling his military service, so he lost his Bavarian citizenship; he and his family returned to the United States. He became a U.S. citizen in 1892."
"U.S. Immigration records. Line 133 notes "Friedr. Trumpf." age 16, born in Kallstadt, Germany.
In 1885, at age 16, Trump immigrated via Bremen, Germany, to the United States aboard the steamship Eider, departing on October 7[3]:32 and arriving at the Castle Garden Emigrant Landing Depot in New York City on October 19. As he had not yet served the mandatory military duty of two years in the Kingdom of Bavaria, this emigration was illegal.[13] U.S. immigration records list his name as "Friedr. Trumpf" and his occupation as "none".[14]
"Bavarian authorities accused him of emigrating when he was too young to avoid fulfilling his military service, so he lost his Bavarian citizenship; he and his family returned to the United States. He became a U.S. citizen in 1892."
You understand the difference between immigration and emigration, right? That Bavarian authorities deem his emigration illegal is a function of Bavarian law. It does not make his immigration illegal, which is a function of US law. There is and never has been a requirement by US immigration that you had legal authorization from your origin country to leave.
shanv3 --- You can't compare what is happening now as opposed to what happened over 100 years ago. Immigration laws were very different then and Trump's grandfather came here legally in accordance with the laws at the time.
shanv3 --- You can't compare what is happening now as opposed to what happened over 100 years ago. Immigration laws were very different then and Trump's grandfather came here legally in accordance with the laws at the time.
These people will dig up any excuse in the book to defend illegal immigration into our country today no matter how far fetched and ludicrous it might be. My all time favorite is claiming that the early European settlers were supposedly illegal aliens and therefore it justifies illegal immigration into our country today. Funny though that most that make that claim are also from Spanish European roots.
That;s the point. Since there;s no way for poor peasants to emigrate to the United States the ones who are able to walk/run/crawl/swim are just going to cross the border anyway. Then they claim asylum which is their legal right under US and international law.
There is a process to emigrate legally. No country is obligated to take in poor peasants, we have enough of our own to take care of. That is no excuse for breaking the law. It is also our right to deny asylum and deport.
shanv3 --- You can't compare what is happening now as opposed to what happened over 100 years ago. Immigration laws were very different then and Trump's grandfather came here legally in accordance with the laws at the time.
I am not pointing about one person, not about the laws.
There is a process to emigrate legally. No country is obligated to take in poor peasants, we have enough of our own to take care of. That is no excuse for breaking the law. It is also our right to deny asylum and deport.
There's no way for poor peasants to emigrate to the US. I;ve said that here a thousand times.
There's something called
The Universal Declaration of Human Rights - which the United States ratified and is a signatory of.
(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
While not a treaty itself, the Declaration was explicitly adopted for the purpose of defining the meaning of the words "fundamental freedoms" and "human rights" appearing in the United Nations Charter, which is binding on all member states
(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
(2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.
Exactly, most of these asylum seekers are coming here for economic benefits not from persecution therefore their claims are bogus.
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