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Old 11-05-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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1973 was the last draft, and I doubt it will ever happen again. Forcing a bunch of people who don’t want to be in the military to go off to war is a stupid idea in the first place.

An all volunteer force is so much better. If illegal aliens volunteered to join the military, it might make sense to let them join.

Obviously, deporting everyone and securing the border is what I really want, but since that will never happen, why not let them join the military as low cost high velocity bullet stoppers”?
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Old 11-05-2021, 08:19 AM
 
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1973 was the last draft, and I doubt it will ever happen again. Forcing a bunch of people who don’t want to be in the military to go off to war is a stupid idea in the first place.

An all volunteer force is so much better. If illegal aliens volunteered to join the military, it might make sense to let them join.

Obviously, deporting everyone and securing the border is what I really want, but since that will never happen, why not let them join the military as low cost high velocity bullet stoppers”?
I disagree. No one here illegally should be allowed to join our military and that is the law now. It makes no sense since they had no respect for our laws in the first place. They would only be doing it in hopes for a path to citizenship anyway and all the goodies that it would provide.

No one is suggesting that we can or will deport every single illegal alien but we can do much more than we are doing now. We can also do more about securing our border.

As for you remark about using them as bullet stoppers that's just plain inhumane.
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Old 11-05-2021, 08:55 AM
 
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1973 was the last draft, and I doubt it will ever happen again. Forcing a bunch of people who don’t want to be in the military to go off to war is a stupid idea in the first place.

An all volunteer force is so much better. If illegal aliens volunteered to join the military, it might make sense to let them join.

Obviously, deporting everyone and securing the border is what I really want, but since that will never happen, why not let them join the military as low cost high velocity bullet stoppers”?
No, no, no.

It doesn't "make sense." And your last sentence is deeply inhumane.
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Old 11-05-2021, 11:29 AM
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Black who were not considered American citizens during/before the Civil war served as volunteers in the Northern military and was used for cannon fodder in the failed assault at Battery Wagner battle against in the South.
In the north mainly in New York city there were deathly clashes between those drafted and their supporters and the military. Some of the clashes were because the wealthy who were drafted brought their way out of military duty by paying the less fortunate to serve in their place. Believe it or not it was legal at the time.
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Old 11-05-2021, 04:06 PM
 
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Black who were not considered American citizens during/before the Civil war served as volunteers in the Northern military and was used for cannon fodder in the failed assault at Battery Wagner battle against in the South.
In the north mainly in New York city there were deathly clashes between those drafted and their supporters and the military. Some of the clashes were because the wealthy who were drafted brought their way out of military duty by paying the less fortunate to serve in their place. Believe it or not it was legal at the time.
The difference is though that blacks weren't here illegally as illegal aliens are.
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Old 11-05-2021, 05:46 PM
 
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Illegals serving are little more than mercenaries. Never trust a mercenary. Besides that, we don't need illegals to fill our ranks. WE get plenty of qualified citizens. We should the illegals to build the wall. We will pay the the same wages that we pay prison labor. You should never reward criminals for their efforts.
I don't even want them building the wall. They aren't authorized to work here and again that would be taking jobs from Americans.
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Old 11-06-2021, 12:15 PM
 
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The federal laws say that even illegals must come forward and register ,Why ? Because by registering we then have a way to identify these people even at some later date, They will continue to hide and tell lies and avoid obeying the LAWS,,,
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Old 11-06-2021, 12:42 PM
 
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The federal laws say that even illegals must come forward and register ,Why ? Because by registering we then have a way to identify these people even at some later date, They will continue to hide and tell lies and avoid obeying the LAWS,,,
That law makes no sense to me since illegal aliens can't serve in our military. It's a conflict, IMO.
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Old 11-07-2021, 10:51 AM
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That law makes no sense to me since illegal aliens can't serve in our military. It's a conflict, IMO.
Yes they can and many have under current Biden rules.
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Every year, more than 8,000 green card holders but who are non-U.S. citizens join the military. However, recently some policy changes may interfere with the ability for some resident but non-U.S. citizens to join the military, even in a limited (no security clearance) capacity.
https://www.thebalancecareers.com/ca...litary-3354092
Under the Biden administration a lot of the current illegals aliens entering the country have been given green cards which is an underhanded way to make them kind of sort of legal.
So yes illegal aliens can serve in the Military.
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Old 11-07-2021, 03:40 PM
 
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Yes they can and many have under current Biden rules.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/ca...litary-3354092
Under the Biden administration a lot of the current illegals aliens entering the country have been given green cards which is an underhanded way to make them kind of sort of legal.
So yes illegal aliens can serve in the Military.
Nope, it's against the law and if Biden and Obama changed that all by themselves then they are in violation of the law themselves. You don't just hand out green cards to illegal aliens either it has to go through congress. So "lawfully" they cannot serve. How can someone be "sort of" legal anyway?
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