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Old 05-12-2022, 07:09 AM
 
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Once again, we don't need immigrants to fill "low waged" jobs as we have to supplement their living costs. Many of these low waged jobs haven't flooded our economy and they just need to go out of busiiness if we can't find Americans to fill them. For example, illegal aliens cost us over $100 billion a year while they only contribute $19 billion to our economy.

We should only allow in legal immigrants that we actually need and for the necessary skilled jobs that we may have a shortage of Americans to fill. I guess some people don't understand what the "carrying capacity" of a nation is in regards to overcrowded conditions and the depetion of their natural and social resources.

Sorry, that these immigrant loving, pro-illegals can't grasp the above but they have an agenda which is either being a bleediing heart liberal without a brain in their heads, they hire them for profit or have ethnic ties to them. It's all self-serving and anti-American.

https://www.susps.org/
Well, you certainly won’t need to worry about “carrying capacity” in those 27 states deemed “The Heartland”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Econom...lation_decline
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Old 05-12-2022, 07:53 AM
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Location: Dallas, TX
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BTW, Texas is losing $470 million per day Houston Chronicle. Dallas Morning News reports $1 Billion per day. It cost Texas 36,000 jobs and $42 billion so far. Multiply that by 11 and you'll get the national equivalent thereof -- almost 400,000 jobs and $262 billion.

And Republicans think they are so good at managing an economy. Ask someone who went through the Texas Ice Storm last year what they think!
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Old 05-12-2022, 08:00 AM
 
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BTW, Texas is losing $470 million per day Houston Chronicle. Dallas Morning News reports $1 Billion per day. It cost Texas 36,000 jobs and $42 billion so far. Multiply that by 11 and you'll get the national equivalent thereof -- almost 400,000 jobs and $262 billion.

And Republicans think they are so good at managing an economy. Ask someone who went through the Texas Ice Storm last year what they think!
Maybe you should weigh that against what illegal aliens cost us and the criminals and terrorists sneaking into our country without inspections. So what were you saying about the economy?
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Old 05-12-2022, 08:38 AM
 
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I have to laugh at these proponents of massive immigration whether they come here legally or illegally to fill jobs and to increase our popuation growth along with their excessive birthrates because they are usually the same ones who are pro-abortion for our own people. Makes no sense at all.
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Old 05-12-2022, 11:36 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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By the way, according to the chart by the conservative Cato Institute, the statistics for the illegal immigrant population is pretty stable. It started going down a little under Obama, but didn't drop much more under Trump.


Far from the U.S.-Mexico border, Ohio’s Senate primary shows how the Republican obsession with the fiction of a stolen election has spawned a new cause for fear of illegal immigration
Six years after former President Donald J. Trump paved his way to the White House on nativist and xenophobic appeals to white voters, the 2,000-mile dividing line between Mexico and the United States has once again become a fixation of the Republican Party.
But the resurgence of the issue on the right has come with a new twist: Republican leaders and candidates are increasingly claiming without basis that unauthorized immigrants are gaining access to the ballot box.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/gop-c...180314863.html


And from Cato:

https://www.cato.org/blog/president-...al-immigration
The Cato Institute is a combination of liberationist and classic liberalism. Cato’s economic and environmental positions are strongly right however they they are noted for holding liberal positions on immigration and social liberty issues, which is not surprising given that libertarian/classic liberalism juxtaposition.

So no, you can’t legitimately claim this is coming from a conservative source.
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Old 05-12-2022, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Oh so much nonsense. Bottom line is still-a declining population is not good. And most of the immigrants come here to work. This whole thier coming for handouts is just nonsense.

Know who has universal healthcare? Canada and Mexico. Not the US. etc etc etc.

Theyre here to work. We need more legal immigration. thats the facts. The fact that we don't have enough legal immigration is part of why it is hard for me to care about illegal immigration really as of late.
You obviously don't have kids in school whose classrooms are burgeoning with kids who can't speak English. I live in a majority Hispanic neighborhood. The man works under the table, the woman sells tamales, churros and cheesecakes on the weekends and collects food stamps, medicaid and housing assistance for her US born kids. The brand new trucks sitting in so many driveways is a sign they aren't hurting and may be doing better than the average American citizen.

I see comments from my illegally-here neighbors on the Facebook neighborhood page saying "They'll never understand", and other comments that dismiss concerns about illegal immigration. From the comments I've seen, they have no shame and see nothing wrong with being here illegally. This problem is going to take a long time to fix, if it ever does.
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Old 05-12-2022, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Central Washington
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BTW, Texas is losing $470 million per day Houston Chronicle. Dallas Morning News reports $1 Billion per day. It cost Texas 36,000 jobs and $42 billion so far. Multiply that by 11 and you'll get the national equivalent thereof -- almost 400,000 jobs and $262 billion.

And Republicans think they are so good at managing an economy. Ask someone who went through the Texas Ice Storm last year what they think!
Do you realize those increased inspections ended almost a month ago, on April 15? And that one billion figure is for the entire country, not just Texas.
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But the dispute that started April 7 cost about $1 billion a day in cross-border trade to the United States and $470 million a day to Texas.
It also states that it cost 4.2 billion, not 42. And,
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In all, it will cost the equivalent of 77,000 job years for the country and 36,300 for Texas’ economy, Perryman said. A job year is considered to be one person working for a year, though Perryman said, in this case, it’s primarily multiple people working for shorter periods.
For the U.S. as a whole, that’s about $9 billion in lost gross domestic product, Perryman estimated.
It says right there, "77,000 job years" and "about $9 billion" in lost GDP.

So where did you come up with "almost 400,000 jobs and $262 billion" from?
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Old 05-12-2022, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Cali
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GOP invent fake crisis?

The number of illegal crossings are reported by CBP.

CBP is under the control of Biden Administration….for now
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Old 05-13-2022, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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hmm...its more complex then that. In the middle of Obamas term they also made how they count things different.

But yeah the "OMG CARAVANS!" is about to get screamed about non stop. They have to find something to play the victim card for, and foreigners taking our jobs/money.etc is a common one. They don't seem to notice that a year later were all still alive, and then get back to screaming about how the foreigners will take our jobs and murder us.
worrying about illegals voting as themselves is a far off problem, because they'd have to be made citizens first. We're not even at "path to citizenship" for them.

but illegals changing Congressional demographics and Federal spending is an absolute current issue.

And acting like they're not coming, and not getting past Border Patrol, is burying your head in the sand.

Those aren't made up figures of the massive increase in detentions at the border, of long-held estimates of 20% gotaways, of the accounts that the diversionary tactic of overwhelming CBP in one place with Family Units or kids allows them to also getaway a couple miles away is real.

And of the fact that when we allow 700K in just one year to remain in the country to enter a system that will currently take 4 years to wind through, that the costs to the US Taxpayer and citizens is massive in health care and educating non-English speakers.
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Old 05-13-2022, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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I find it fascinating how people ignore Trump won a lot of Hispanic vote too. And the Republicans are performing very well in south Texas counties dominated by Hispanics, who are all worried about the illegal immigration flood.

Your post is a perfect example of talking over other people while putting fingers in your ears and going "la la la la" because you really don't care. In your book, illegal immigration is just fine and dandy and nothing wrong. Law and order be d**ned.
I do give the OP some credit though. His Google notification for "Trump" sent him the article, and he knew to post it in the Illegal Immigration Forum.
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