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Old 08-12-2008, 10:02 PM
 
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No criminal history

Ramirez, a father of two who held down a factory job and another one picking cherries, had no criminal history, District Atty. James Goodman said. He arrived illegally in 2003, friends said.

His connection to the 15-year-old girl remains unclear.

Though they say Ramirez was hard-working and devoted to his family, friends say he was seeing the girl. Her sister, Crystal Dillman, 24, is the mother of Ramirez's two children, ages 1 and 2. Dillman said she and Ramirez were engaged, and that he assumed the role of an older brother to her sister. The 15-year-old was unavailable.

Roger Laguna, an attorney for Walsh, said the boys had seen Ramirez and the girl together at the high school.

"You see a 15-year-old white girl with a person you believe to be a gangster or a thug: What's wrong with this picture?" said Laguna. "Most of us keep it to ourselves, but you've got 17-year-olds out there being rude and dumb; they broached the topic."

Laguna, seeking to move the case to juvenile court, describes what happened as a street brawl gone awry.


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"Those kids don't need to be gone [in prison] for 17, 18 years," said Bob Seigel, 48. Nearby, his teenage daughter smacked her fist to her palm, while others laughed, in mock preparation for what some fear will be ethnic retaliation.
Immigrant's death splits blue-collar town -- chicagotribune.com
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Why what might you be implying by bolding and quoting those select statements from the article JDubsMom?

You forgot some details though:

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Isn't it a little late for you guys to be out?" one teen reportedly asked Luis Eduardo Ramirez, 25, and the girl as they walked near a park after 11 p.m. one Saturday last month. "Get your Mexican boyfriend out of here!"

Ethnic slurs ricocheted in the night, echoing what many have muttered for years in this crumbling mountainside town that was once the thriving jewel of Pennsylvania's coal country. Then, fists flew, and one teen, an honor student, reportedly delivered a skull-shattering kick to the head, killing Ramirez
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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So according to his friends, this illegal was doing the 15 year old little sister on the side while impregnating the older one twice?

Good riddance to him!
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:35 PM
 
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So according to his friends, this illegal was doing the 15 year old little sister on the side while impregnating the older one twice?

Good riddance to him!
If that turns out to be true then I agree with you AND the 4 honor roll kids should go to jail.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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One should also look at the fact that if said illegal had not been in this country he would not be dead, most probably anyway, unless one of his countryman would have killed him, and that is greatly possible considering the problems that those countries have.
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Old 08-12-2008, 10:59 PM
 
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If that turns out to be true then I agree with you AND the 4 honor roll kids should go to jail.
100% agreed.
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Old 08-13-2008, 06:20 AM
 
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So according to his friends, this illegal was doing the 15 year old little sister on the side while impregnating the older one twice?

Good riddance to him!
Where in the article did you read that?
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:14 AM
 
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Why what might you be implying by bolding and quoting those select statements from the article JDubsMom?

You forgot some details though:
Your paranoia is beyond frightening, it's ridiculous. Did you notice I bolded the HEADINGS of both paragraphs? I could have posted other paragraphs but chose to post and bold the fact that he had no criminal record. Additionally, it is against the rules to post AN ENTIRE ARTICLE, which is why I NEVER DO. I post the link so you can choose to read it in it's entirety or not.

When you go fishing it's always better when you use LIVE BAIT.

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Old 08-13-2008, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Where in the article did you read that?
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Though they say Ramirez was hard-working and devoted to his family, friends say he was seeing the girl.
I'm surprised you missed it, you're usually so diligent...
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:45 AM
 
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I'm surprised you missed it, you're usually so diligent...
He's blinded by his defensive posturing and raza loyalty. Either that or just dumber than a bag of yakki hair.

That being said:

I wouldn't doubt that he was sleeping with both of them. The older sister sounds like the classic case of a skank being desperate for anything resembling a man.

Sleeping with the 15 year old sister who was probably a virgin when he got her, is probably what kept this big ole happy family together. [/sarcasm off]

For him, sex with the 24 y/o "fiancee" with 3 kids was the equivalent of eating 3 day old road kill. After all, sleeping with minor children seems to be one of their many culturally acceptable acts of machismo.

By the time the entire story unfolds, I guarantee you it's going to be quite interesting, especially if those dumb as a post latinas who want to see where their "brother" died show up.

Popcorn anyone?

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