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Old 09-02-2008, 02:17 PM
 
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The term 'nationality' is subjective. One might refer themselves as an "Italian" due to their cultural affiliation with that country.
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:01 PM
 
Location: California
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My G/F is 1/2 Italian------and, she is Nordic White (natural blue eyed blonde).

My father is from Hungary and I am Nordic White as well.

Here in Arizona all non Hispanic White/Caucasian people are counted as Anglo--------even swarthy Arabs/Iranians.
You could go even further and break down Italy between Northern Italy and Southern Italy.

Anglo means of English descent. I'm pretty sure Caucasian/White are the umbrella terms for people of European descent.

Ex: Police describing people as Hispanic, Black, Caucasian, Asian, Middle Easter, etc.
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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You could go even further and break down Italy between Northern Italy and Southern Italy.

Anglo means of English descent. I'm pretty sure Caucasian/White are the umbrella terms for people of European descent.

Ex: Police describing people as Hispanic, Black, Caucasian, Asian, Middle Easter, etc.
I was referring to Arizona re: definition of the word 'Anglo'.

BTW: the Italian side of my G/F is southern Italian.
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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WTF is "culturally North American"????

Can I call BS on that crap???
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:21 PM
 
Location: California
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WTF is "culturally North American"????

Can I call BS on that crap???
North America=United States...culture=music, language, food, etc..

Theres nothing to call BS on. Its just a different way of saying United States' culture. No reason to break the question mark button.
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:48 PM
 
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You could go even further and break down Italy between Northern Italy and Southern Italy.

Anglo means of English descent. I'm pretty sure Caucasian/White are the umbrella terms for people of European descent.

Ex: Police describing people as Hispanic, Black, Caucasian, Asian, Middle Easter, etc.
Caucasian doesn't mean white skin, that term was used when the view was that there were 3 main races. Caucasian included most people in India, the Middle East, and Europe, North Africa, Negroid was much of Africa and Mongoloid was Eastern Asia. Later they decided Ameircan aboriginal to be a separate race.

Back then race meant something different than skin tone or country of origin. It had to do with hair texture, facial bone structure, nose and eye shape and some other features.

Only recently do some use Caucasian or white to describe only the fairest people of certain Scandinavian countries. It no longer is used to describe the Caucasian type of people in Japan because they wouldn't be Nordic looking enough even though that was how that term once was used.

And more and more race only means the country someone's ancestors came from or the language one of their ancestors might have once spoken. Or even if they never spoke a language, that language was spoken in their country. Now pure Mayan Indians are in the hispanic race along with those whose ancestors all lived once in Africa or Europe.

Anglo now means anyone whose ancestors didn't speak Spanish at some point or come from one of those countries where people spoke Spanish and more and more it's "hispanic" or "not hispanic" are the two races. You see boxes now with "white-hispanic", "black-hispanic", white-non-hispanic", "black-non-hispanic" as though having Spanish speaking ancestors is the only thing that matters.
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:51 PM
 
Location: California
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Caucasian doesn't mean white skin, that term was used when the view was that there were 3 main races. Caucasian included most people in India, the Middle East, and Europe, North Africa, Negroid was much of Africa and Mongoloid was Eastern Asia. Later they decided Ameircan aboriginal to be a separate race.

Back then race meant something different than skin tone or country of origin. It had to do with hair texture, facial bone structure, nose and eye shape and some other features.

Only recently do some use Caucasian or white to describe only the fairest people of certain Scandinavian countries. It no longer is used to describe the Caucasian type of people in Japan because they wouldn't be Nordic looking enough even though that was how that term once was used.

And more and more race only means the country someone's ancestors came from or the language one of their ancestors might have once spoken. Or even if they never spoke a language, that language was spoken in their country. Now pure Mayan Indians are in the hispanic race along with those whose ancestors all lived once in Africa or Europe.

Anglo now means anyone whose ancestors didn't speak Spanish at some point or come from one of those countries where people spoke Spanish and more and more it's "hispanic" or "not hispanic" are the two races. You see boxes now with "white-hispanic", "black-hispanic", white-non-hispanic", "black-non-hispanic" as though having Spanish speaking ancestors is the only thing that matters.
Well, Anglo is short for Anglo-Saxon which comprises of all the English and Germanic people.
Italians, Portuguese, Spanish, and French are considered Latin.
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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North America=United States...culture=music, language, food, etc..

Theres nothing to call BS on. Its just a different way of saying United States' culture. No reason to break the question mark button.
Now that really IS BS, and I can't believe you even typed it. North America is comprised of Canada, the US and Mexico, don't tell me you suddenly flunked 6th grade geography. You're letting your NAU tendencies show with THAT post.

Globalist pig...
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:11 PM
 
Location: um....guess
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I thought it was against CD rules to personally insult someone?
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:13 PM
 
Location: California
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I thought it was against CD rules to personally insult someone?
haha, don't trip.

Guypinestra has a complex, and he blatantly insults people all the time. He's kind of crude, but sometimes you gotta step back to appreciate the piece of work he is. I mean piece of art.
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