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Old 01-14-2009, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Cicero, NY
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These agents didn't get screwed, they screwed themselves when they covered up the shooting, when they picked up the shell casings and got rid of them. If they would have followed protocol and reported the shooting as is normally done there would have been an internal investigion, they would have been given a desk job and when all was said and done they would have been back to work or the investigating team would have determined they were fired. Should they be in jail, probably not. For the most part Border Patrol agents are good guys just doing their jobs trying to protect our borders. Are there some bad agents in the bunch, of course there are. Just like there are bad doctors, lawyers, teachers, and politicians to mention a few.
How can they be expected to do their jobs when they have their hands tied in most cases with bureaucratic red tape, and have inferior weapons. What are they supposed to do when mexican military has incursions across the border, and more often than not protecting the drug smuggling scum that is helping to destroy the country.

And yes they covered up to a degree what they did but so what they did there jobs. They should not be in prison, and if that jerk we have in office had any balls what so ever and didnt bow down before the mexican government they would have been pardoned

IF this truly is a war on drugs then with these policies we are losing that war
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Old 01-14-2009, 05:43 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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they can do their jobs, just like the honorable agents do it. its not that hard. if you are the law, stay on the right side of the law. abuse of power happens by law enforcement all the time. "protecting" the borders dont give these idiots carte blanche. all they had to do was follow the rules like the rest of their buddies do.

or do a better job of covering up their mis steps.

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How can they be expected to do their jobs when they have their hands tied in most cases with bureaucratic red tape, and have inferior weapons. What are they supposed to do when mexican military has incursions across the border, and more often than not protecting the drug smuggling scum that is helping to destroy the country.

And yes they covered up to a degree what they did but so what they did there jobs. They should not be in prison, and if that jerk we have in office had any balls what so ever and didnt bow down before the mexican government they would have been pardoned

IF this truly is a war on drugs then with these policies we are losing that war
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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they can do their jobs, just like the honorable agents do it. its not that hard. if you are the law, stay on the right side of the law. abuse of power happens by law enforcement all the time. "protecting" the borders dont give these idiots carte blanche. all they had to do was follow the rules like the rest of their buddies do.

or do a better job of covering up their mis steps.
Flip side: do what that sheriff in a border county in Texas did; issue 'return fire' orders to his deputies---------even if it means firing into Mexico!
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:13 PM
 
Location: southern california
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when i was a kid (in chicago) cops shot bad guys or jailed them, now its just the opposite.
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Old 01-14-2009, 06:15 PM
 
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Don't you guys say the law is the law and illegal is illegal? Well, the law found these guys guilty and convicted them of doing something illegal...or are there exceptions to illegal is illegal?
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Old 01-14-2009, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina
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Don't you guys say the law is the law and illegal is illegal? Well, the law found these guys guilty and convicted them of doing something illegal...or are there exceptions to illegal is illegal?
We have here a malicious prosecution by the gov for political reasons in which the gov coerced the jury, the gov lied to the jury, the gov withheld critical, case throwing out evidence, from the jury. Without this corruption from the gov, the jury would never have convicted the border agents. As long as jorge's ass was safe he had no problem in sacrificing the border agents in order destroy the morale of the Border Patrol and at the same time placate Mexico's demand to prosecute the border agents.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:47 PM
 
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A drug smuggler or border agents and the gov decided that a drug smuggler deserved more support.
These guys should have shot the smuggler in the head instead of the ass. We need to provide better training for our agents.
IT is a real shame when a known drug smuggler rates such powerful friends as our gov.
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Old 01-14-2009, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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A drug smuggler or border agents and the gov decided that a drug smuggler deserved more support.
These guys should have shot the smuggler in the head instead of the ass. We need to provide better training for our agents.
IT is a real shame when a known drug smuggler rates such powerful friends as our gov.
Do you think they'd try to cover that up too?
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Do you think they'd try to cover that up too?
Better to be judged by 12 vs. (possibly) carried by 6.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I can only suppose that the smuggler was some form of double agent or maybe triple agent and was on somebody's leave alone list. The border is a lawless area where normal rules do not apply. The only thing I would suggest is that Border patrol agents carry rifles and shovels and know how to use both. The drug smugglers are not just criminals. They are pests entitled to all the mercy allowed for rats and other vermin. Shoot them and feed the vultures.

This is why I am not a cop.
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