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Old 01-07-2009, 06:37 PM
 
Location: rain city
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Not true. Common sense dictates that our aging infrastructure will deteriorate more rapidly with 20+ million additional “citizens.” Likewise, a 2-bedroom house built in 1950 will fare better with a family of four occupying the residence, than a 3-bedroom house built in 2000 in which five families are living simultaneously.
'Additional burden' hardly explains or justifies an the lack of investment in the American infrastructure for half a century.

The US government decided that the most pressing need was to police the world for various villians after WW2 and has spent vast quantities of American resources in this pursuit for the last 50 years.

This left a severely reduced allotment for the government to actually reinvest in its country, its people, the US infrastructure.

Here is a illustrative pie chart showing what a phenominal lead the US has in military spending.

World Military Spending — Global Issues

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Old 01-07-2009, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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'Additional burden' hardly explains or justifies an the lack of investment in the American infrastructure for half a century.

The US government decided that the most pressing need was to police the world for various villians after WW2 and has spent vast quantities of American resources in this pursuit for the last 50 years.

This left a severely reduced allotment for the government to actually reinvest in its country, its people, the US infrastructure.

Here is a illustrative pie chart showing what a phenominal lead the US has in military spending.

World Military Spending — Global Issues

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I agree, our government has not properly maintained our infrastructure. However, having millions of illegal foreigners in this country only exacerbates the problem.
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Old 01-07-2009, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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As usual, macmeal is right on the money. Pro-illegals have created this “immigration” monster. Whenever anti-illegals have attempted to differentiate between legal immigrants and illegal aliens, we have been accused of xenophobia or racism. You can’t have it both ways -- they are either legal or illegal. The preferred euphemism of “immigrant” may sound warm and fuzzy, but it is a disservice to legal immigrants who have a right to reside in this country, and do not deserve to be treated as interlopers.

Even pro-illegal posters on this forum rarely refer to those opposed to illegal immigration as anti-illegal. It’s usually anti-“immigrant.” How many times have we corrected posters by proclaiming we are not anti-IMMIGRANT, we are anti-ILLEGAL? Well, you have made your beds. . . .
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I'm always amazed when people want to have the cake, ice cream and the whole party when it's NOT their birthday. You can't have it both ways, any more than you can ride 2 donkeys with one ass. Yet too many legal hispanics seem to think illegal aliens of their race/ethnicity are so special that they are above the law and that they have the right to twist all words and American laws to suit their needs. That is until it backfires.

Your post is dead on, I couldn't agree more.
I call out those posters who try to blur the lines between legal and illegal quite often myself.

Many of the above actually believe their own BS----------never mind it is biting them in the ass with the growing anti illegal alien sentiment here in the USA.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:50 PM
 
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So much for we are against only illegal immigrants argument.
blacknight04, if illegal immigrants are so beneficial and no different than legal immigrants, why would Mexico want to deter or deport illegal immigrants. Explain.
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:11 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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But remember, even though these 20 million weren't alive when this piece of land was under diferent rule they feel they have ownership.

Except for the part of paying for the infrastructure use.
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:52 AM
 
Location: So. California
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I refuse to legitimatize people who came illegally into this country. Their legal status is "ILLEGAL." So there! The argument that they contribute money and work to this country is bunk! The other side of the coin is that they are TAKING more money from us than contributing. If they chose to have babies while in this country the babies are THEIR responsibility. If you came across the border illegally the chances are 100 percent that you ARE NOT: a doctor, a chemist, a mathematician, an engineer, a teacher, a writer, a poet, an artist, a banker, or a high school or college graduate. Gee, what does that leave? The poor, the hungry, the sick, the criminal, etc. Just what we DON'T need more of in this country.
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:41 PM
 
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I refuse to legitimatize people who came illegally into this country. Their legal status is "ILLEGAL." So there! The argument that they contribute money and work to this country is bunk! The other side of the coin is that they are TAKING more money from us than contributing. If they chose to have babies while in this country the babies are THEIR responsibility. If you came across the border illegally the chances are 100 percent that you ARE NOT: a doctor, a chemist, a mathematician, an engineer, a teacher, a writer, a poet, an artist, a banker, or a high school or college graduate. Gee, what does that leave? The poor, the hungry, the sick, the criminal, etc. Just what we DON'T need more of in this country.
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