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Old 06-25-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I support requiring using E-verify to check a new hire's ID to make sure they are a match before allowing them to start work. I feel this should be required by all companies in the US and that companies who fail to follow this procedure could be required to pay hefty fines, and the hiring manager to be charged with a crime. I was wondering what others thought about this and if there are people who would be against this and if so, why.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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Like you said in your other post, it's an excellent first step.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Where laws can be ignored due to political correctness
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I support your proposal.

Strangely, Obama, the pro-illegal Democrats, pro-illegal advocacy groups, ethnocentricists, illegal alien employers, etc. seem to think otherwise.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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E-Verify would definitely help

Besides: it may help protect Americans/green card holders who happen to have Spanish sounding surnames (Hispanic or not) from being victims of fraud.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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I support your proposal.

Strangely, Obama, the pro-illegal Democrats, pro-illegal advocacy groups, ethnocentricists, illegal alien employers, etc. seem to think otherwise.
From what I've seen Obama has been a mixed bag on immigration issues. He has been tactfully pushing for improved protection from illegal immigration yet he's pushed some pro-illegal immigrant stuff like amnesty already existing undocumented workers. From what I would understand he is all for taking responsible steps towards discouraging illegal immigration but doing it very carefully so as not to lose the Hispanic vote. He is, after all, a politican.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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From what I've seen Obama has been a mixed bag on immigration issues. He has been tactfully pushing for improved protection from illegal immigration yet he's pushed some pro-illegal immigrant stuff like amnesty already existing undocumented workers. From what I would understand he is all for taking responsible steps towards discouraging illegal immigration but doing it very carefully so as not to lose the Hispanic vote. He is, after all, a politican.
You nailed it in a nutshell, sad to say.
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:52 PM
 
Location: SW Kansas
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I fully support E-verify and my employer uses it on every new hire!
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What about the subcontractor game that is played amongst the trades???

Basically they label the illegals as subcontract labor, to by-pass all liability for hiring them as employees.
It is like hiring an outsourced, non-American company, to the IRS and anybody looking to find them.
They are employees in every sense of the definition, yet that one label placed on them(and legal workers) gets them off the hook.
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Old 06-25-2009, 07:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What about the subcontractor game that is played amongst the trades???

Basically they label the illegals as subcontract labor, to by-pass all liability for hiring them as employees.
It is like hiring an outsourced, non-American company, to the IRS and anybody looking to find them.
They are employees in every sense of the definition, yet that one label placed on them(and legal workers) gets them off the hook.

They've used this cr** to hire Illegals on defense contracts. Totally blows me away.
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Old 06-26-2009, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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What about the subcontractor game that is played amongst the trades???

Basically they label the illegals as subcontract labor, to by-pass all liability for hiring them as employees.
It is like hiring an outsourced, non-American company, to the IRS and anybody looking to find them.
They are employees in every sense of the definition, yet that one label placed on them(and legal workers) gets them off the hook.
It doesn't surprise me that there are some small employers that use tactics like this. I'm not familiar with the process for outsourcing as we don't normally do it at the company I work for (our company is 100% domestic). Large companies would never risk doing something like this because they would be subject to all kinds of legal problems, guaranteed the Department of Labor would be all over them. My feelings are that any intelligent company would do whatever possible to avoid that kind of exposure.
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