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Darn RIGHT....ain't NONE of us got any more bidness squallin' bout illegals takin' Are JERBS, then we got gripin' about car thieves takin ARE CARS...nor pickpockets a-takin ARE BILLFOLDS...or tax cheats failin' to pay THERE TACKS.
I agree with you...ain't NOBODY got no right to criticize nobody else....but let me ask ya...If we can't criticize no illegals, then home come it's all right fer YOU to criticize US? How come you doant look in the mere and see your OWNSELF? Think yer sumpin' special? I can't hardly believe that.
As my taxi-drivin' buddy used to say, "That ain't hardly FARE".
Ennyways, the best to you....weather or not we agree together.
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Originally Posted by macmeal
I won't attempt to analyze your tortured logic...except to comment on the above gems. Are you FOR illegals or against them? Comparing human beings to "wet homeless puppies" may not be the most complimentary way to describe them...(if your aim is to be complimentary, and not derisive...it's hard to tell).
I'll 'bite' though, (get it? "puppies"?..."bite"? ), since I like analogies. If a "wet homeless puppy" wagged its tail, no one would object. Some kindly soul MIGHT even offer the puppy food and shelter...maybe even a home. But if 100 puppies showed up..or 1000...and they weren't all "cute"...and some of them were mean and aggressive..then even the most confirmed 'pet lover' would begin to get overwhelmed. He'd PROBABLY get angry at the puppies' owner..or whoever 'dumped' them...and he'd probably call animal control. A homeless "puppy" is cute....1000 homeless dogs are NOT.
Besides that, illegal immigrants aren't puppies, anyway..they're human beings, and they're at least partially responsible for their own behavior.
As for "laws being broken"? Illegal immigration is a CHRONIC, on-going 'breaking' of the law, not a momentary thing like speeding or jaywalking. It's LIVING in an illegal condition, 24 /7. And the penalty isn't draconian...it isn't jail, or physical assault, or huge fines. The penalty for illegal immigration is to "go home"...period. Go home, and you're in the clear. Few petty criminals are treated that well...or get off that easy.
And since you have chosen to make this a discussion on 'Mexicans' rather than illegals in general, 'going home' is hardly a penalty at ALL. Mexico, as we all know, is a wonderful place...its citizens carry it always in their hearts. Mexico is not a tyranny...it has no concentration camps, no 'ethnic cleansing', no religious violence...it's just a very ordinary, 'run-of-the-mill' place. The only "oppression" most Mexicans face at home is not being able to freely cross into the US.
I think somebody's been playing on your naivete. Mexicans are not oppressed at home. Their basic problem is simply 'frustration'. They are NOT refugees, nor are they 'homeless puppies'.
You want "homeless puppies"? Try Haiti....or Chad...or Sudan. You won't find any 'homeless puppies' among arriving Mexican illegals...(just an occasional pit bull). Mexicans are quite well off as societies go.
Darn RIGHT....ain't NONE of us got any more bidness squallin' bout illegals takin' Are JERBS, then we got gripin' about car thieves takin ARE CARS...nor pickpockets a-takin ARE BILLFOLDS...or tax cheats failin' to pay THERE TACKS.
I agree with you...ain't NOBODY got no right to criticize nobody else....but let me ask ya...If we can't criticize no illegals, then home come it's all right fer YOU to criticize US? How come you doant look in the mere and see your OWNSELF? Think yer sumpin' special? I can't hardly believe that.
As my taxi-drivin' buddy used to say, "That ain't hardly FARE".
Ennyways, the best to you....weather or not we agree together.
weeeell dang nab you with the makin sense and stuff. Most dem fellers run clean off when sum them udder fellers rolled up and all they got wassa 'no yo no my yob mang'.... taint even easy to got none dem illleegers no more. Whatn tarnations go'n on har. I'm bettin that thar gubmint fault heh? I guess i'm fixin to have ter do dat jerb my selves.
Darn RIGHT....ain't NONE of us got any more bidness squallin' bout illegals takin' Are JERBS, then we got gripin' about car thieves takin ARE CARS...nor pickpockets a-takin ARE BILLFOLDS...or tax cheats failin' to pay THERE TACKS.
I agree with you...ain't NOBODY got no right to criticize nobody else....but let me ask ya...If we can't criticize no illegals, then home come it's all right fer YOU to criticize US? How come you doant look in the mere and see your OWNSELF? Think yer sumpin' special? I can't hardly believe that.
As my taxi-drivin' buddy used to say, "That ain't hardly FARE".
Ennyways, the best to you....weather or not we agree together.
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scabs & illegals... hmmm
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Originally Posted by camping!
'Yer jerbs' --- just who talks like that? Noone I know.
Oh, but you were inferring that people who are against illegal immigration are ignorant hicks, rednecks if you will. I can see how open minded you are
At anyrate, yes illegal immigrants take jobs but more to the point the drive down salaries. They are much like the scab labor that tried to break the labor unions at the beginning of the last century. The fact that they are able to drive out legal labor does not make them 'good' for the nation. At all. They drive down wages which hurt the blue collar worker the most....and isn't that the subgroup the dems are supposed to be fighting for?
Hmmm, at anyrate your idea that only the best and the brightest are coming here illegally is rather absurd. The majority are uneducated and unskilled and tend to produce more children than they can support. Hardly a class of people we need more of. As to those in IT who are overstaying their visas....again, that is about scab labor. Or do you really think they are making the same pay as legal workers in the IT field? If the American middle class becomes extinct illegals will have had quite the hand in that.
I am not excusing our politicians btw, or business for that matter. I know full well their complicity in this. After all, who has the most to gain by cheap labor? Who has the most to gain by a population who is poor and desperate?
Camping, I agree with YOU.
Maybe OP thinks scab laborers are good Americans also? Illegals aren't good Americans. Hogwash idea.
If I hadn't had the painful experience of being locked out in a labor dispute for 6 months (2003-2004!!!) I wouldn't understand the reality of scab laborers supporting the defeat of good wages & benefits...
This thread is dishearteningly discouraging. It's a useless argument with the OP.
Maybe OP thinks scab laborers are good Americans also? Illegals aren't good Americans. Hogwash idea.
If I hadn't had the painful experience of being locked out in a labor dispute for 6 months (2003-2004!!!) I wouldn't understand the reality of scab laborers supporting the defeat of good wages & benefits...
This thread is dishearteningly discouraging. It's a useless argument with the OP.
It sheemsh hiz jerb iz to beeee inflammertoury.
Kate
Just don't forget that there are a lot of businesses that use the scab Illegal Alien labor and they are freaking out about:
A. A secure border.
B. A shamnesty that would cut off their slave like labor pool.
If they are made citizens or the border is enforced these businesses would have to pay a living wage and make sure taxes were taken out of those wages. Oh the horror.
Your responses are hilarious, considering the fact that most of you lean politically to the right.
You say things like "illegals don't pay taxes".. Yet, that is a typical liberal response to something.
All of us of critical thinking and pro-freedom minds, know that taxes on income is one of the worst social ills that this country currently has. Because it implies that the government owns the fruits of your labor. They just allow you to keep a certain percentage. You all know that we had no income tax in this country until 1913 right?
How did the income tax start out ? Kind of like how universal health care is starting out today. They make lies about how much it will cost, and how the quality of the service will be. If people back then knew that the income tax would rise to about 20-30% for the average American, they would have not allowed it. And if they would have knew that our government was not on the gold standard of money and switched to a fiat system where they just printed it and racked up debt, they definitely would not of allowed their money to be given to a wasteful/lying/useless organization.
Thank goodness for the internet today. People can access information that just wasn't available back then. People see through the lies of the pro-UHC crowd. They know that the public option will end up covering illegals. They know that the public option leads to UHC , b.c the public option is subsidized with unlimited tax payer money causing their costs to actual users to be massively lower than to a private insurer who can't cheat the system legally.
So don't blame the OP (me).. The other generations created this problem of illegal immigration, with their "good" intentions...
If we didn't have the socialistic programs, then illegals would not be as much a problem. We need to phase out social security, phase out medicare (which makes all health care more expensive...), phase out the income tax (which will make government smaller, and stop all the unconstitutional things they are doing) ...
In closing, do I agree that Illegal Immigration is a problem today? Well, yes.... but it's only a problem because of the game we are forced to play today.
I believe you guys are trying to fix a broken branch, when in all reality, the whole tree is a SCAM to begin with. You're not going to fix this country's problems by trying to fix the symptoms... you can only fix it by fixing the disease that allows it to all happen.
Do people really believe that there is a shortage of jobs because of illegal immigrants?
I believe that the laws on the books from American Legislatures is what creates a shortage of jobs.
If this was a free country, we would not need to worry about where people came from. But b.c we have so many laws that REGULATE (CONTROL) businesses here in America, and have so many laws that REGULATE (CONTROL) citizens of America, we have businesses going overseas where they can actually produce stuff without worrying about big brother.
But for some reason America has always wanted to become like Britain, ever since we departed from them.
Stop blaming poor Mexicans for what we created ourselves in DC and in the other capitals...
(the government wants you to blame Mexicans.... corporations.... CEO's....etc..../anything that gets your attention off the real cause of the problems)
Get rid of the laws that regulate and control and tax and tax businesses and employees. And we will have prosperity once again. Let people choose where they work, instead of shutting down businesses for having "unsafe work conditions" that the other 99% of the world could only dream of having available in their areas....
Blaming Illegals for trying to feed themselves and their families, is like blaming a wet homeless puppy in the rain for wagging it's tail.
And for those that say "they are ILLEGALS.. they broke the law.. send them back!!"...
- I say to you... How many laws have you broken in the last day? the last month? the last year? There are SO MANY LAWS in this country now, that 99.99% of the population breaks some law at least once every week... So please don't tell me or anyone in the younger generation to have respect for the law anymore, when anything and everything can and will be against the law soon enough at this pace.
You have 535 legislatures that couldn't recite 5 constitutional ammendments if you asked them. Yet you worry about poor Mexicans for breaking the law? When you have at least over 500 ignorant legislatures making the laws?
In closing, quit blaming the little guy just trying to get by....
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), since I like analogies. If a "wet homeless puppy" wagged its tail, no one would object. Some kindly soul MIGHT even offer the puppy food and shelter...maybe even a home. But if 100 puppies showed up..or 1000...and they weren't all "cute"...and some of them were mean and aggressive..then even the most confirmed 'pet lover' would begin to get overwhelmed. He'd PROBABLY get angry at the puppies' owner..or whoever 'dumped' them...and he'd probably call animal control. A homeless "puppy" is cute....1000 homeless dogs are NOT. 
scabs & illegals... hmmm
