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Old 10-25-2009, 06:12 PM
 
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DALLAS — Dallas police Chief David Kunkle issued a public apology Friday after learning that a rookie officer issued a ticket to a motorist because she couldn't speak English.
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In addition for being cited for the U-turn violation, Mondragon received another ticket for being a "non-English speaking driver."
Top cop apologizes for 'no-English' ticket | Latest News | WFAA.com (http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa091023_wz_noenglishfolo.24568a6e8.html# - broken link)

If she cannot speak the language, she cannot interpret certain roadsigns (http://static.open.salon.com/files/r...1237209356.jpg), communicate with other drivers, etc. She is excessively dangerous and the police office acted appropriately in issuing a ticket.

 
Old 10-25-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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the police DID NOT act appropriately.

she was breaking no such law.

thats like getting a ticket for changing your radio dial when changing your radio dial is not against the law.

if you feel it should be a law then right a letter.
change the law. then you can ticket all you want. till then, it is stupid to think this cop acted appropriately and within the law.

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Top cop apologizes for 'no-English' ticket | Latest News | WFAA.com (http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa091023_wz_noenglishfolo.24568a6e8.html# - broken link)

If she cannot speak the language, she cannot interpret certain roadsigns (http://static.open.salon.com/files/r...1237209356.jpg), communicate with other drivers, etc. She is excessively dangerous and the police office acted appropriately in issuing a ticket.
 
Old 10-25-2009, 08:07 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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the police DID NOT act appropriately.

she was breaking no such law.

thats like getting a ticket for changing your radio dial when changing your radio dial is not against the law.

if you feel it should be a law then right a letter.
change the law. then you can ticket all you want. till then, it is stupid to think this cop acted appropriately and within the law.
This woman made an illegal u-turn and could not produce her driver's license upon request; she did not have it with her, a violation of state law.

The rookie cop was incorrect in citing her for being a non-English speaking driver but if she had been driving a taxi or a semi, he would have been in the right. If you are a rookie that necessarily means that you may not be familiar with all of the laws, which is why you are closely supervised by a more experienced police officer (who should have stepped in and prevented the "non-English speaking" citation from being issued).

In a PC move the city dismissed her other violations, which I think is outrageous. It sends the message to a certain segment of the population that all you have to do to get out of your properly-issued citations is to cry racism.

I think it is high time in Texas to require some degree of English proficiency before you can get a license here. It is ridiculous to expect every public servant to learn Spanish.
 
Old 10-25-2009, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Where the sun always shines
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My big question is always how are these people even passing the written part of the DMV test when they can read or write in ENglish? I can't see Canada giving me a drivers license when I cannot read the signs that are in French
 
Old 10-25-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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My big question is always how are these people even passing the written part of the DMV test when they can read or write in ENglish? I can't see Canada giving me a drivers license when I cannot read the signs that are in French
Most of Canada is English, not French (Quebec only). Some Francophones have problems in Alberta, etc. due to the signage being in English only.
 
Old 10-25-2009, 10:34 PM
 
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Top cop apologizes for 'no-English' ticket | Latest News | WFAA.com (http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa091023_wz_noenglishfolo.24568a6e8.html# - broken link)

If she cannot speak the language, she cannot interpret certain roadsigns (http://static.open.salon.com/files/r...1237209356.jpg), communicate with other drivers, etc. She is excessively dangerous and the police office acted appropriately in issuing a ticket.
Oh lord, so you claim that if I travel to France or Germany I should not drive, I've done without any problems....
 
Old 10-26-2009, 01:04 AM
 
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Oh lord, so you claim that if I travel to France or Germany I should not drive, I've done without any problems....
Not if you cannot read the corresponding languages. In the name of safety, people need to be able to read roadside signs.

No speaky English? No drivey car.
 
Old 10-26-2009, 04:44 AM
 
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My big question is always how are these people even passing the written part of the DMV test when they can read or write in ENglish? I can't see Canada giving me a drivers license when I cannot read the signs that are in French
That's what I wonder as well.
 
Old 10-26-2009, 06:56 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Oh lord, so you claim that if I travel to France or Germany I should not drive, I've done without any problems....
Well, the last time I drove in Europe I had to apply for an international drivers license. I suppose that way if I was stopped for anything the police would know I was just visiting and not did necessarily understand the language (although so many traffic signs are non-verbal there).

If this person is actually living here in the USA (not a tourist) without understanding the language, then that's a different story. Everyone who lives and drives here should be able to read road signs.
 
Old 10-26-2009, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Well, the last time I drove in Europe I had to apply for an international drivers license. I suppose that way if I was stopped for anything the police would know I was just visiting and not did necessarily understand the language (although so many traffic signs are non-verbal there).

If this person is actually living here in the USA (not a tourist) without understanding the language, then that's a different story. Everyone who lives and drives here should be able to read road signs.
And of course; a 'stop' sign today in virtually all of Europe looks just like ours-----------including the English word STOP not words like pare, alto, halt, arret, etc.
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