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Old 12-04-2009, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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If 20 illegals are caught entering this country in a truck, why do we need to squander tax dollars by providing separate instructions and hearings? They came together, and they should all be deported together. Even if they aren’t a member of a group, they all made a conscious decision to enter this country illegally. Therefore, they are all guilty. Why do we need to individually explain the ramifications of a guilty plea? What the heck is there to defend? They already realize they are violating our laws, and they know the penalty is deportation.

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EL PASO, Texas – Immigrants who have been arrested in zero-tolerance zones along the Mexican border must not be tried at mass criminal immigration hearings because the proceedings violate federal rules, an appeals court ruled Wednesday.

A three-judge panel with the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco ruled that a federal court in Tucson, Ariz. — where mass hearings have been held for defendants arrested by U.S. Border Patrol agents — had violated Rule 11, which requires that each defendant be read their rights and be given an explanation of what a guilty plea means.

Any immigrants found in zero-tolerance zones established along the Mexican border under Operation Streamline can be arrested and prosecuted in a federal court on charges of illegal entry.

The program was initially credited with curbing illegal border crossings, but critics have long argued that immigrants are pushed through the system without being given a chance to fairly defend themselves or understanding the proceedings.
Court: Mass criminal immigration hearings unlawful - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091203/ap_on_re_us/us_immigration_zero_tolerance_1 - broken link)
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:21 PM
 
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Why have courts at all? It's long, drawn out, and a waste of time.
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Old 12-05-2009, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Why have courts at all? It's long, drawn out, and a waste of time.
Correct: if here illegally*-----toss 'em out without benefit of a trial

*a SSN which does not clear US databases would a reasonable Litmus Test for starters
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Old 12-05-2009, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Why have courts at all? It's long, drawn out, and a waste of time.
No, court hearings for citizens are not a waste of time. Even the vilest criminals are entitled to their day in court. However, tax dollars spent on hearings for foreigners who choose to enter our country illegally, is in fact a waste of time and valuable resources.
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