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Do you seriously believe it will be as simple as that?
Well, it is a term commonly used by teabaggers almost as if they own it and define it. It is something that the judicial system gets to decide, but the challenge does start with the premise. Get it?
I don't. It is one of those practices I oppose. Do you support unconstitutional practices sometimes?
you are the one that doesn't get it. Please point out the violation of rights.
Here's one pratice that is unconstitutional but yet you accept it. DUI CHECKPOINTS!
Where did I say I accepted them? The premise of them essentially is to nab drunks. It's clear as day and night to pick them out, especially if it's your job. How are they going to weed out illegal immigrants? This is going to lead to massive profiling.
I personally don't care about the drug war on the other side of the border. The sollution for that would be end of narcotics prohibition but that's an entirely different debate. And I can guarantee the vast majority of illegal immigrants that are here have nothing to do with drugs.
The violence along the border, and spilling over, does have to do with the drug wars and is what ultimately sparked this law in Arizona.
Every time you step out of the house there is already a chance you will be stopped on reasonable suspicion. Such has been the case for more than 40 years - The Supreme Court approves!
Well I think that is what is implied by land of the free. Like everything else, a lip service to make feel good. That said, no, I don't plan on being a part of "reasonable suspicion" when I step out much less be worried about a police state subjectively stopping me for anything.
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i was talking about LEGAL immigration. we clearly don't even need any more of that right now, at this point in time, with our surplus labor population and increasing social costs. (rising food stamp costs, bankrupt unemployment funds, etc.)
i have NEVER favored amnesty to illegal immigrants and never will, as the cost to all americans is too high.
I was talking about amnesty and Reagan. Did you respond to my post by mistake?
The violence along the border, and spilling over, does have to do with the drug wars and is what ultimately sparked this law in Arizona.
Can you show proof of it spilling over? That's the creed of the fearmongered. If they passed the law based on something miniscule as that, this law is even more of an abortion than I once thought. I guarantee the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants in this country have nothing to do with drugs.
Where did I say I accepted them? The premise of them essentially is to nab drunks. It's clear as day and night to pick them out, especially if it's your job. How are they going to weed out illegal immigrants? This is going to lead to massive profiling.
nice wiggling. So you are saying that ONLY drunk people are targeted in DUI checkpoints and nobody else has to stop? You are plain out lying to yourself. They will weed out illegals the same way they try to weed out drunk drivers. If you don't accept this practice, why aren't you raging about it? You simply said in another post that it is no big deal to have to show ID when caught in a DUI checkpoint where you were told by law enforcement to pull over and show your paperwork without any probable cause whatsoever. This practice is much more unconstitutional than the AZ law, yet the public ignores it.
Wait a minute... so amnesty is fine when you feel it is okay? Then there is nothing bad about illegal immigration.
Your hypocrisy fails you.
i was responding to this post, and letting you know that i don't think illegal immigration is EVER fine or EVER okay, and that it is ALWAYS lawbreaking.
these are lawbreakers who will be caught when they cannot produce legal ID, and that is why liberals are so mad about the topic. they don't care about the constitution.
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Come on kid, this is Middle School Government material
