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Old 12-10-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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Check the facts. For YEARS Governors of Illinois raided (they called it sweeping accounts) the state employees and teachers pensions to fund the state so as not to raise taxes. So now when these people who the money was BORROWED expect the money to be paid back, are villainized by the current Governor so as to be the enemy! NICE!!!!!
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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Check the facts. For YEARS Governors of Illinois raided (they called it sweeping accounts) the state employees and teachers pensions to fund the state so as not to raise taxes. So now when these people who the money was BORROWED expect the money to be paid back, are villainized by the current Governor so as to be the enemy! NICE!!!!!
That's part of the issue. Another part of the issue is state leaders promising things they knew they could not "make good" on. Why aren't union members angrier with their officers who should have been more diligent in not endorsing ANYBODY who played a part in sweeping accounts? WHy? Because it is a game and as long as they have theirs and the politicians have theirs they don't care about the working chumbalone.
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:06 AM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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Cubs I think we will continue to have the same problems as long as Springfield and Chicago are in bed together. Gerrymandering should be stopped. It may benefit Chicago, Cook County, and other areas like Joliet and Naperville, but at the same time its divided other parts of the state for that advantage. It unfairly moves County A and its resources such as state police from a large MSA and gives it to a County B - which absolutely fouls the Census. Half of Illinois counties are really unattached because they have more corn than people.
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Old 12-30-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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No suprises here. Illinois has the second-worst budget deficit and credit rating in the country. This is what happens when you give greedy, political crooks control:

The Best- and Worst-Run States in America - Yahoo! Finance

What do you me "ONE OF THE WORST"....

I think we have held that title for years regardless of what some poll might say..
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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I'd move back if the State was in better hands than crooks. They'll have to get the money somehow to feed those unions and It will come from the little guys. Too bad, otherwise I'd be living in the Northwest corner of that State.
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:23 AM
 
Location: South Chicagoland
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Cubs I think we will continue to have the same problems as long as Springfield and Chicago are in bed together. Gerrymandering should be stopped. It may benefit Chicago, Cook County, and other areas like Joliet and Naperville, but at the same time its divided other parts of the state for that advantage. It unfairly moves County A and its resources such as state police from a large MSA and gives it to a County B - which absolutely fouls the Census. Half of Illinois counties are really unattached because they have more corn than people.
I don't think that has anything to do with the deficit.
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:32 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Illinois: The state that makes Michigan look well-run (and that ain't easy).
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Illinois: The state that makes Michigan look well-run (and that ain't easy).
Those who live in extremely fragile and economically stagnant glass houses...
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Old 04-02-2013, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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The problem with IL politics is there is only one dominate county and city in the Midwest. It has no close competition. It has no peers nearby. Neighbor states have no impact on it. The rhetoric falls on deaf ears.

It owns the Governors chair and the majority of the legislators who pretend to represent it. It has five major sports teams, several large and powerful Fortune 500 companies, 39% of Illinois millionaires, plus several well regarded universities. It receives more tourist dollars than most of us can count. It receive a greater portion of tax monies through higher grocery taxes, city parking tags, and taxes on pricey venues. The cost of the average house is higher which nets a greater revenue from real estate taxes while the population increased. And no, the majority of the tax dollars collected do not stay downstate.

Now its time to pony up and pay the piper. The bill is due.

It wants a downstate that has been ignored for 100 years to fund the pension deals it made with its governor and its legislators years ago. There is pushback, and deservedly so. Downstate was not consulted when the back room deals were done.

There is a big imbalance in the state that needs to be corrected. Nothing can be accomplished until it is. Expecting a few to prop up many is silly.
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Not where you ever lived
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There has not been any accurate and unbiased reporting since cable began and small town newspapers were gobbled up by national syndicates. Today its all foreign owned, agenda driven faux news.

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