07-11-2019, 02:37 AM
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I've lived in the western suburbs my entire life and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been "to the lake". Anything you would want to do on Lake Michigan you can do cheaper, less crowded, easier access, and (IMO) more fun on any number of other waterways like Lake Geneva, Chain of Lakes, or the Illinois River.
07-11-2019, 07:51 AM
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I've lived in the western suburbs my entire life and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been "to the lake". Anything you would want to do on Lake Michigan you can do cheaper, less crowded, easier access, and (IMO) more fun on any number of other waterways like Lake Geneva, Chain of Lakes, or the Illinois River.
Very short sighted.
07-11-2019, 08:10 AM
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I've lived in the western suburbs my entire life and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been "to the lake"
Interesting comment, wrong of course, based on the posters limited experience.
07-11-2019, 09:27 AM
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I think it would be nice for folks who rarely get to see the city and the lake, to book a Chicago cruise ship tour that includes meals. You can rent a boat and cruise along the dunes up to Michigan. As a side note, I just read that there are now helicopter rides you can take over the city and the lake.
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07-11-2019, 09:50 AM
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Yeah, I'm from the west burbs.... I've only been to Chicago beaches once, and I've gone a handful of times to the beach on the northshore as we have family in Lake Forest. Outside of that though, 95% of the times I've been to lake Michigan... has been in the coastal towns of southwest Michigan, not the Chicago area. A lot less hectic and busy over there, so I prefer the Michigan and even Indiana beaches more.
I used to live about a mile and a half from Oak St. beach... I would never ever go... the only time I'd head to the beach was on July 4th and I'd trek it up to Loyola beach since it wasn't so packed full of idiots, just lots of idiots shooting off their own fireworks with no regard for anyone else... definitely fun though
07-11-2019, 01:17 PM
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I used to live about a mile and a half from Oak St. beach... I would never ever go... the only time I'd head to the beach was on July 4th and I'd trek it up to Loyola beach since it wasn't so packed full of idiots, just lots of idiots shooting off their own fireworks with no regard for anyone else... definitely fun though
Yeah, it's pretty much entirely a party atmosphere on Chicago beaches... which is cool, but if you're just trying to relax.... not so much fun. MI's beaches or the Dunes, and to a lesser extent the northshore are much more peaceful.
07-12-2019, 09:23 AM
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If I lived in Chicagoland, I'd be at Illinois Beach or the Indiana Dunes every weekend. Both offer wonderful shoreline (way better than crowded city beaches unless your objective is to see and be seen).
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Caglee
I've lived in the western suburbs my entire life and I can count on one hand the number of times I've been "to the lake". Anything you would want to do on Lake Michigan you can do cheaper, less crowded, easier access, and (IMO) more fun on any number of other waterways like Lake Geneva, Chain of Lakes, or the Illinois River.
I kind of get this for someone from the Midwest interested in on-the-water recreation. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest, and I miss wide sandy/rocky beaches to walk, waves crashing, cool sea breeze, etc. None of which are to be found by inland lakes and rivers.
07-16-2019, 01:15 AM
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Interesting comment, wrong of course, based on the posters limited experience.
No problem, you guys can enjoy your violent, over-crowded, expensive beaches in Chicago. I'll be less than 2 hours away in St. Joseph, MI if you need anything!
07-16-2019, 01:26 AM
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No problem, you guys can enjoy your violent, over-crowded, expensive beaches in Chicago. I'll be less than 2 hours away in St. Joseph, MI if you need anything!
Chicago beaches are free...
07-16-2019, 09:36 AM
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I have lived in the suburb near Chicago area close to about 13 years. No this is not bad luck 13. If I break a mirror will it be 7 years bad luck also.
Well actually me and my girlfriend don't drive.
Do you bicycle? That is a really good way to see the lake front though the northern half of the Lake front trail gets crazy with mixed traffic a lot of the time. It is basically a freshwater sea or ocean which in Chicago much of the lake front is parks, beaches, and harbors with the other portion nondescript rocky shore along the lake. I'd ride to the metra station closest to you and take your bikes with you (allowed except for rush hour) and do the lake front trail during some not weekend off hour.
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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