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Old 09-22-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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Are there any nitwits out there who are still fighting the Fed after all these years of historically low interest rates???

Sure hope not ... unless they really enjoy looking like clueless chumps...




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Old 09-22-2016, 11:37 AM
 
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Are there any nitwits out there who are still fighting the Fed after all these years of historically low interest rates???

Sure hope not ... unless they really enjoy looking like clueless chumps...




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You better watch your fault language cause you may be reported to Forum Moderator.

And for your information you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even know what Secular Bull Market means? Here is a reality check for you; for the last 16 years we have been in a BEAR MARKET and the FED has been masking this fact by printing money and goosing the markets. Without the Fed DOJ would be under 10,000 today.

Secular Bull Market, LOL.........what a joke
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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You better watch your fault language cause you may be reported to Forum Moderator.

And for your information you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you even know what Secular Bull Market means? Here is a reality check for you; for the last 16 years we have been in a BEAR MARKET and the FED has been masking this fact by printing money and goosing the markets. Without the Fed DOJ would be under 10,000 today.

Secular Bull Market, LOL.........what a joke
If the last 16 years have been a bear market, I can't imagine what happens when the bull arrives.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:53 AM
 
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yep , the last 16 years for a balanced portfolio have been very good .in fact you didn't have to buy equity's at all .

a 30 year treasuary bond would have produced gains right in line with equity's .

i retired based on how the last 16 years did . if that is a bear market i will take em .
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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If the last 16 years have been a bear market, I can't imagine what happens when the bull arrives.
Secular Bull market doesn't need FED's manipulations and stolen public or taxpayer money to finance it. Or do you think that is how Capitalism should work?????

You guys should move to a communist country if you like SOCIALISM and economy + stock market that is run by central bank and government.

Is this still United States of America or what? Secular Bull Market.....lol. What a joke!!!!
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Secular Bull market doesn't need FED's manipulations and stolen public or taxpayer money to finance it. Or do you think that is how Capitalism should work?????

You guys should move to a communist country if you like SOCIALISM and economy + stock market that is run by central bank and government.

Is this still United States of America or what? Secular Bull Market.....lol. What a joke!!!!
You've probably had enough coffee today...
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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he should make it simple on himself . just copy anyone of his posts and just post it daily . it can save a lot of typing .
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Old 09-22-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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A secular bull market, or bear market, is a description of long-term performance of equities. It's not a statement of causality or a normative judgment on whether the gains are legitimate. If over the course of a decade or so, stocks sprightly go up, then we have ourselves a secular bull market… even if the growth is due to escalation of the price of tulips, astrological convergence, group hugs around the campfire, and heady sales of Pet Rocks. But if stocks are relentlessly declining in price, despite vibrant growth in incomes, rising housing prices, declining debt, good solvency in the public-sector, fully-funded pensions and fully capitalized banks, well, we still have ourselves a secular bear market.

By my reckoning, the past 16 years has NOT been a secular bull market, because cumulative increase in the stock market has been muted. We don’t have an obvious trend, as we did in 1982-1999.

Regardless, whether we're in a secular bull market, a secular bear market, a secular unicorn market, or a secular giraffe market, there is zero information about the present, which will have any bearing on the future. So it doesn’t matter what we call the past 16 years. Call it what you like. I'll call it a secular stagnant market, because that description makes me happiest, comporting best with my personal world-view... which is really all that matters.

And who said that solipsism was a bad idea?
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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By my reckoning, the past 16 years has NOT been a secular bull market, because cumulative increase in the stock market has been muted. We don’t have an obvious trend, as we did in 1982-1999.
The S&P topped-out around 1500 in the year 2000 and the DJIA was around 11k.

If you were buying in a 401k or IRA regularly, you got some discounts in 2003 & 2009 with the S&P under 1k and the DJIA around 8k. So your returns were much better.

Muted/shmuted, it's not facebook, alphabet, amazon, but people that compare themselves to those sorts of things have "index envy."
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And who said that solipsism was a bad idea?
I might have.
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:37 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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The S&P topped-out around 1500 in the year 2000 and the DJIA was around 11k.

If you were buying in a 401k or IRA regularly, you got some discounts in 2003 & 2009 with the S&P under 1k and the DJIA around 8k. So your returns were much better.

Muted/shmuted, it's not facebook, alphabet, amazon, but people that compare themselves to those sorts of things have "index envy."I might have.
Provided that you have a job in 2003 and 2009. It's easier said then done. And If you are unlucky enough that you have to take some money out of the market because of job loss.
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