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Old 04-03-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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Why is only 40% of the loss deducted?


Because it not being done correctly

1500 ltcg - 500 stcl = 1000 ltcg


1000 ltcg = 1000 ltcg
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:10 AM
 
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Because it not being done correctly

1500 ltcg - 500 stcl = 1000 ltcg


1000 ltcg = 1000 ltcg
I thought this is how it shall be

port1: 1000 - (1000 * .2) = 800
port2: 1500 - (1500 *.2) - 500 = 700

So, portfolio1 (etf) still gives better bang for the buck.
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:16 AM
 
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Why is only 40% of the loss deducted?
Sold at short term capital loss
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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I thought this is how it shall be

port1: 1000 - (1000 * .2) = 800
port2: 1500 - (1500 *.2) - 500 = 700

So, portfolio1 (etf) still gives better bang for the buck.

They are taxed the exact same. You add your ltcg and add your stcl. Since the gains are more than the loss you subtract the losses from the gains to have 1k in ltcg either way.


The example was a poor one really.

Let's say you have a portfolio that you've already realized 5k in gains and towards year end your Xom position had 5k loss, you sell to net your gain loss for the year at zero and use the proceeds to buy CVX


You could remove the equity names and replace them with SPY/VOO and you can also flip it and say you already had realized losses and you harvested gains to net to zero while reinvesting in something similar
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:31 AM
 
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Sold at short term capital loss


Your loss reduces the outstanding gains for the year in your scenario before calculating tax liability
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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Sold at short term capital loss
How can it be a short-term if all of them 've been held for the same time period of 1yr?
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:38 AM
 
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How can it be a short-term if all of them 've been held for the same time period of 1yr?
That part is really irrelevant, the losses short or long term would net against the gains
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Old 04-03-2015, 09:50 AM
 
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You're right. It would only matter if short term capital loss exceeded long term capital gains
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Old 04-03-2015, 10:27 AM
 
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You're right. It would only matter if short term capital loss exceeded long term capital gains
But that would be true in either case and if losses exceeded gains you didn't perform very well
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