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Old 07-21-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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There is nothing wrong with spy except they are bound by different rules as far as what they can do.

Ivv tends to have a better return because they can use derivitives, loan out stocks and generate return in other fashions spy is not allowed to do
That's interesting. Is there anything like that for QQQ?
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Old 07-21-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: NJ
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im with fidelity so i would probably go with IVV. im in ITOT though.
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Old 07-22-2017, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Mooringstar might be of interest to you. Morningstar

I would look at how 10,000 grows over the last 10 years for each of the funds.

The fund that was best the last 10 years may not be the best for the next 10 years so better to pick one and start investing. Nothing wrong with picking two funds if you want.
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Paranoid State
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There is nothing wrong with spy except they are bound by different rules as far as what they can do.

Ivv tends to have a better return because they can use derivitives, loan out stocks and generate return in other fashions spy is not allowed to do
Which is to say IVV is not an S&P 500 fund, and it incurs more risk.
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Old 07-22-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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The IVV is not a true S&P 500 fund. IVV is 90% S&P 500, and 10% actively managed.

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The investment seeks to track the investment results of the S&P 500® (the "underlying index"), which measures the performance of the large-capitalization sector of the U.S. equity market. The fund generally invests at least 90% of its assets in securities of the underlying index and in depositary receipts representing securities of the underlying index. It may invest the remainder of its assets in certain futures, options and swap contracts, cash and cash equivalents, as well as in securities not included in the underlying index, but which the advisor believes will help the fund track the underlying index.

In contrast, SPY is a true S&P 500 fund.

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The investment seeks to provide investment results that, before expenses, correspond generally to the price and yield performance of the S&P 500® Index. The Trust seeks to achieve its investment objective by holding a portfolio of the common stocks that are included in the index (the “Portfolioâ€), with the weight of each stock in the Portfolio substantially corresponding to the weight of such stock in the index
Ditto for VOO:

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The investment seeks to track the performance of a benchmark index that measures the investment return of large-capitalization stocks. The fund employs an indexing investment approach designed to track the performance of the Standard & Poor's 500 Index, a widely recognized benchmark of U.S. stock market performance that is dominated by the stocks of large U.S. companies. The advisor attempts to replicate the target index by investing all, or substantially all, of its assets in the stocks that make up the index, holding each stock in approximately the same proportion as its weighting in the index.
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Old 07-22-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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Which is to say IVV is not an S&P 500 fund, and it incurs more risk.
which is my point . funds that call themselves s&p 500 funds are not all the same " iShares Core S&P 500 (IVV"

by the way ivv may also incur less risk . it goes both ways
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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It goes one way-at least if we're answering the actual question. The OP asked,

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What is the best S&P 500 index fund,everybody?
IVV may or may not be "better", but it's apparently not a true S&P 500 index fund, nor does it try to be (based on that prospectus). I'll admit I didn't know that until it got pointed out here. It's probably still good enough-but not what the OP was asking about.
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Old 07-22-2017, 01:30 PM
 
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OP, just be sure you understand the difference between a regular mutual fund and an ETF.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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You can't go wrong with Vanguard.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:23 AM
 
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Which is to say IVV is not an S&P 500 fund, and it incurs more risk.
hardly anymore risk to be concerned about . i always use ivv over spy . the difference is pretty consistent .

in fact here is the difference between ivv and spy

ytd year ivv 11.47 , spy 11.47

1 year ivv 16.55 , spy 16.48

3 year ivv 10.04 spy 9.07

5 year ivv 15.00 spy 14.93

10 year ivv 7.13 , spy 7.08

15 year ivv 9.57 , spy 9.54
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