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Old 06-16-2020, 12:22 PM
 
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Ahh the old switcheroo. Are you thinking this somehow means those two predictions you made were correct? Of course not.


To what end? We're living comfortably on less than 2% SWR, I just don't see the point of yanking all our money in and out of the stock market.

There is no switching lol. In the mid-March lows I said we would see a "moonshot" higher. And we have seen the biggest bull run in the history of the stock market and will continue to see it furthered this summer. The only thing that changed a few weeks later was the apex point of the moonshot call.

And if you don't see the advantage of being 100% cash going into those mid-March lows and seeing a record historical run in the markets you really are trolling. SWR has absolutely nothing to do with it. In fact, I bet you don't even manage your own finances based on your posts lol.
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Old 06-16-2020, 12:32 PM
 
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Wait.

Is this now considered a *new* bull market?

Because I haven't counted it as such, more like a continuation of the market that was in place in Feb.
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Old 06-16-2020, 12:32 PM
 
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There is no switching lol.
Sure there is. It went:

1. Stock market record by mid-May (nope)
2. S&P500 at 3,500 by mid-June (nope)
3. See didn't I call a moon shot and there was a great bull market?

1,2 are not the same as 3.


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And if you don't see the advantage of being 100% cash going into those mid-March lows and seeing a record historical run in the markets you really are trolling. SWR has absolutely nothing to do with it. In fact, I bet you don't even manage your own finances based on your posts lol.
I can see the advantages of having put all my money in bitcoin in 2015 then yanked it out a couple years later, that doesn't mean it's something I would do.

SWR has everything to do with how much risk one needs to take.

You're be wrong on that bet (just like with new highs in mid-May and mid-June), as I manage my own finances.
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Old 06-16-2020, 12:37 PM
 
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Wait.

Is this now considered a *new* bull market?

Because I haven't counted it as such, more like a continuation of the market that was in place in Feb.

Absolutely not. End to a long-term secular bull market.
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Old 06-16-2020, 01:17 PM
 
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And we have seen the biggest bull run in the history of the stock market and will continue to see it furthered this summer.
Not quite. The biggest bull run in the history of the stock market was in the 1990s and it returned 417%.
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Old 06-16-2020, 01:41 PM
 
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Not quite. The biggest bull run in the history of the stock market was in the 1990s and it returned 417%.

Quickest/sharpest/biggest bull run in history since mid-March lows. We see these types of moves at the end of longer-term secular trends. Find one period of time where we saw a sharper run higher within this time frame. If anyone thinks this is a long-term bull starting now see how it turns out for you by this time next year.

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Old 06-16-2020, 01:59 PM
 
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I don't think this is some new bull market starting, and never implied I did. In fact, I said the opposite.

You can argue what's the biggest/sharpest bull run with Investopedia.

https://www.investopedia.com/market-...rns-10-4588903
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:00 PM
 
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Sell all your shares prior to end of day tomorrow before Thursday's unemployment reports and Covid updates
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:03 PM
 
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Sell all your shares prior to end of day tomorrow before Thursday's unemployment reports and Covid updates
No thanks

Long term mutual and index fund investors don't need to make big whipsaw moves.
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Old 06-16-2020, 02:28 PM
 
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Long term mutual and index fund investors don't need to make big whipsaw moves.
Agreed. There are different investing philosophies so new real "correct" way, but if one is in a position where they can safely generate an income that provides for a comfortable life I can't imagine deciding to yank it all in and out of the market based on whatever notions of what's going to happen next. You've already won.

There isn't much upside, but a lot of potential downside.
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