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Lets say I wanted to hedge against the US economy taking a complete dive due to a various # of factors (deficit, covid, BLM, Election, recession, student loan bubble, stagflation/hyperinflation etc..).
What are the best instruments to start investing in now that likely will hold or appreciate in value in a "real" (inflation adjusted manner)?
Are commodities the best way to go and if so what is the cheapest/most effective to hold? Are we talking like spdr shares gold/silver or better to buy physical gold? If you buy physical commodities what is the best way to store it (e.g. basement gun safe or safety deposit box)?
Are there better alternatives long-term over gold/silver? I'm wondering if more practical metals for real world use would be higher in demand over metals used for Jewelry. Copper, Lead, Nickel, and Steal may have more tangible/practical real world value over gold/silver? e.g in a SHTF scenario guns and bullets over rings and chains.
Productive farmland could be somewhat of a hedge, but there are few avenues for retail investors.
AcreTrader allows you to invest directly in farmland, but the shares do not trade on an exchange; thus, it is not easy to get out of the holding once you are in until the terminal date of the investment is reached (3-10 years).
I use LAND (Gladstone Land Corporation) which trades on the NASDAQ like a stock or REIT, but has a business model that is similar to AcreTrader. I haven't owned it long so it is an experiment for me to get the type of hedge that you are looking for.
If you are looking for more practical metals, as you say, why not a miner like BHP or SOUHY?
For SHTF, one would be looking at a rural location where you can raise your own food, and be far from the maddening crowds. That question would be better handled in the Self-sufficiency and Preparedness forum.
The only time I got involved with commodity trading was in 1972 and the Russian wheat deal.
I held a large position in wheat and made a killing, until the company that the WSJ said was ahead of the times by using computers was also a ponzi scheme and I lost everything. I also owned pork bellies, soybeans and corn.
Lets say I wanted to hedge against the US economy taking a complete dive due to a various # of factors (deficit, covid, BLM, Election, recession, student loan bubble, stagflation/hyperinflation etc..).
What are the best instruments to start investing in now that likely will hold or appreciate in value in a "real" (inflation adjusted manner)?
Are commodities the best way to go and if so what is the cheapest/most effective to hold? Are we talking like spdr shares gold/silver or better to buy physical gold? If you buy physical commodities what is the best way to store it (e.g. basement gun safe or safety deposit box)?
Are there better alternatives long-term over gold/silver? I'm wondering if more practical metals for real world use would be higher in demand over metals used for Jewelry. Copper, Lead, Nickel, and Steal may have more tangible/practical real world value over gold/silver? e.g in a SHTF scenario guns and bullets over rings and chains.
Well I am primarily a commodity investor.I have invested a lot of money in oil and gas.I would just invest in the oil and gas industry in the stock market.Thats not my main method or technique though.You can invest in oil wells on some sites like crude funders or whatever the website is.There are massive tax breaks for investing in oil wells like writing off of drilling costs and the depletion allowance buut i would just advise most people to stick to retail oil investments.I like oil and gas because sometimes it does well when the overall broader economy is suffering.I think there may be some value to precious metal funds but its just not my area of expertise.
However, I could possibly see the merit in maybe a miner ETF that is cash flowing.I dont think physical gold and silver are good investments in a total hyperinflationary economic collapse like what was seen in Weimar Germany in the 1920's.Physical gold and silver have negative cashflow.I think the main metal to focus on in a total collapse would be lead as in lots of guns and ammo. A gold and/or silver ETF could be good in a scenario when oil and the broader economy are in the tank like now.
I think you would need rural land out in the country off grid with maybe a bunker and lots of food and supplies and water/drinks in storage.A real good thing to have would be to have that land be able to be used for raising food like fruits and vegetables and livestock and chickens.Also, I think learning how to hunt would be a mighty good skill to have.Also, have lots of supplies you can barter with if the dollar collapsed.Best of luck,Op.
Well I am primarily a commodity investor.I have invested a lot of money in oil and gas.I would just invest in the oil and gas industry in the stock market.Thats not my main method or technique though.You can invest in oil wells on some sites like crude funders or whatever the website is.There are massive tax breaks for investing in oil wells like writing off of drilling costs and the depletion allowance buut i would just advise most people to stick to retail oil investments.I like oil and gas because sometimes it does well when the overall broader economy is suffering.I think there may be some value to precious metal funds but its just not my area of expertise.
However, I could possibly see the merit in maybe a miner ETF that is cash flowing.I dont think physical gold and silver are good investments in a total hyperinflationary economic collapse like what was seen in Weimar Germany in the 1920's.Physical gold and silver have negative cashflow.I think the main metal to focus on in a total collapse would be lead as in lots of guns and ammo. A gold and/or silver ETF could be good in a scenario when oil and the broader economy are in the tank like now.
I think you would need rural land out in the country off grid with maybe a bunker and lots of food and supplies and water/drinks in storage.A real good thing to have would be to have that land be able to be used for raising food like fruits and vegetables and livestock and chickens.Also, I think learning how to hunt would be a mighty good skill to have.Also, have lots of supplies you can barter with if the dollar collapsed.Best of luck,Op.
I agree with these but this is more a long-term strategy to acquire the right land in the right location and the right skill set. I think some of the other suggestions would be a quick option to start dipping your toe into.
I agree with these but this is more a long-term strategy to acquire the right land in the right location and the right skill set. I think some of the other suggestions would be a quick option to start dipping your toe into.
True.I agree with you.Buffett recently bought Barrick Gold which is a gold miner so you could get some gold exposure that way.You could buy it on the dip.Sorry for the confusion..
Lets say I wanted to hedge against the US economy taking a complete dive due to a various # of factors (deficit, covid, BLM, Election, recession, student loan bubble, stagflation/hyperinflation etc..).
What are the best instruments to start investing in now that likely will hold or appreciate in value in a "real" (inflation adjusted manner)?
Are commodities the best way to go and if so what is the cheapest/most effective to hold? Are we talking like spdr shares gold/silver or better to buy physical gold? If you buy physical commodities what is the best way to store it (e.g. basement gun safe or safety deposit box)?
Are there better alternatives long-term over gold/silver? I'm wondering if more practical metals for real world use would be higher in demand over metals used for Jewelry. Copper, Lead, Nickel, and Steal may have more tangible/practical real world value over gold/silver? e.g in a SHTF scenario guns and bullets over rings and chains.
I was interested in the prospect of investing in oil and gas.
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