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Old 02-24-2012, 12:15 PM
 
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peace be upon you

A pleasure to answer any question
about Islam

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Old 02-24-2012, 01:08 PM
 
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Where in the Koran does it say to execute a Muslim who becomes a Christian?

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Old 02-24-2012, 03:00 PM
 
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2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

There are many many verses condemning disbelievers to eternal torture among other things, but I suppose many Christians believe that disbelievers end up in hell as well.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:15 PM
 
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Where in the Koran does it say to execute a Muslim who becomes a Christian?

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Your words are true
, With no one to judge someone with murder without proof of the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and his family and him.
And a death sentence for the word called when Muslim scholars to "apostasy", what is apostasy? What is apostasy?
What is the rule of the apostate?
First, apostasy ... Is the disbelief after Islam.
Second: What is apostasy ...
Divided the things that you get the apostasy into four sections:
A - rose in to belief, such as polytheism or deny the status of fixed qualities or proof of the child to God, it is believed that it is an apostate unbeliever.
B - rose in words, gain Allaah or insulting the Prophet peace be upon him.
C - rose deeds, such as dumping the Koran in a dirty place; because to do so disregard the Word of God Almighty, it is non-ratification of the Principality, as well as to an idol or worship of the sun or the moon.
D - apostasy doing it, like leaving all the rites of religion, and stay away from the final work.
Third: What is the rule of the apostate?
If you wear a Muslim, and who fulfills the conditions of apostasy - selected adult of sound mind - missed his blood, and kill Imam - Muslim governor - or his deputy - Kalkadhi - not washed and prayed for should not be buried with Muslims.
The evidence for killing an apostate is because the Prophet peace be upon him: "Whoever changes his religion, kill him," Bukhari (2794). What is meant by religion is Islam.
And the Prophet peace be upon him: "The blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god but Allah and I am the Messenger of Allaah except in three cases: self-esteem, and previously married adulterer, and his religion outgoing junctions of the group," Bukhari and Muslim 6878 1676
See encyclopedia jurisprudence 22/180

Thus it is clear to you is that the killing of the apostate holds order of God as commanded us to obey the Prophet peace be upon him said: {And obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those of you}, The Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and his family and him to kill the apostate also offer saying: "It is changes his religion, kill him. "
You may need this issue from you to the time of conviction, and to meditate upon, and perhaps you think the question that if a person follow the right and entered it and converted to this religion only right that Allaah has enjoined, then Allow him to leave easily at any time and utter words of kufr that come out of it , Atone Allah and His Messenger and his religion and his book, then do not occur deterrent punishment to him, how will that impact on him and the other entrants in the religion.

Do not you see that this makes the true religion to be followed like a store or shop where a person enters in and out whenever he wants whenever he wants and maybe encourage others to leave the right.
Then this is not a person did not know the right was not exercised in worship, but people knew, March and led worship, no punishment is greater than it deserves, but such a strong governance have not kept only for the person who has not prepared for his benefit because he knew the right and follow the religion, then left him and abandoned him, what the same worse than the same person.
The bottom line answer is that God, who revealed this religion, which is imposed by the rule of the income of the killing, and then abandoned him, and not this provision of the Muslim ideas, suggestions and reasoning, and as long as it also must follow the rule of God as long as We like Lord -allah.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:18 PM
 
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2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

There are many many verses condemning disbelievers to eternal torture among other things, but I suppose many Christians believe that disbelievers end up in hell as well.
This is a good question.
Kill the infidels and the polytheists in the Holy Qur'an for several specific reasons and specific conditions

Example
If someone assaults you and kill your children and your relatives and your package from your country by force
What will you do?

This exactly happened in the time of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

Polytheists and infidels tortured new Muslims unjustly

Killing infidels owners of the Messenger of Allah, without the right

Prevent the infidels from Muslim food and drink without the right

Infidels and take their money home without the right

Get out the infidels of Mecca, the Prophet without the right

Imagine with me all these terrible acts occurred

Only because they are Muslims

Therefore, the revelation came through Jibreel to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

State in the Holy Qur'an

Must fight the polytheists as mohammed Qatlokm unduly

But
You mohammed you the right to kill them


36. Verily, the number of months with Allah is twelve months (in a year), so was it ordained by Allah on the Day when He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are Sacred, (i.e. the 1st, the 7th, the 11th and the 12th months of the Islamic calendar). That is the right religion, so wrong not yourselves therein, and fight against the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) collectively , as they fight against you collectively. But know that Allah is with those who are Al-Muttaqun

But
The peaceful infidels should not fight them or kill them at all

We have to talk to them about the message of Islam to respect

8. Allah does not forbid you to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against you on account of religion and did not drive you out of your homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
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Old 02-24-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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Sounds like the religion of peace to me.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:51 PM
 
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Explain this, defend this. Another rape victim to be stoned to death in Iran

Muslims are the most barbaric and exhibit behavior that would make even the most vicious non-human species animal on the planet vomit in disgust.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:15 AM
 
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Explain this, defend this. Another rape victim to be stoned to death in Iran

Muslims are the most barbaric and exhibit behavior that would make even the most vicious non-human species animal on the planet vomit in disgust.
-The victim and the oppressed does not have any punishment
Yet to prove it and make sure of that

[RIGHT][RIGHT]- The punishment for rape in Islam: For the rapist punishment for adultery, which is stoning if he was married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

The fact that the rapist was punishment for adultery, that's what you do not rape threat - weapons, it was at gunpoint, it would be a warrior, and applies the limit mentioned in the verse: ((33) Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment) Round / 33.
He chooses the ruling of the sanctions of the four mentioned in the verse as it deems appropriate, and the interest of achieving a common security and safety in the community, the assailants reportedly corrupt.


[/RIGHT][/RIGHT]
-The crime of adultery And gay
All forbidden in the Holy Qur'an and Sunna with the conditions for the application of punishment (the skin)galdal - stoning)
- Four witnesses to prove the crime of adultery
- Recognition of the same person (adulterer)
- If the person adulterer Single (never married) punishment (skin-algald)
- If the person is an adulterer (married) punishment (of stoning to death)
- These conditions are in fact of God's mercy
- Discipline and punishment for non-married
- And repent and escape the fire in the afterlife (for married)
- And we must see people, even the death adulterer does not do anyone like him
- The limits of God should be applied to any person who can not touch them

- God says in the Holy Qur'an
- (1) [This is] a surah which We have sent down and made [that within it] obligatory and revealed therein verses of clear evidence that you might remember
(2) The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment
(3) The fornicator does not marry except a [female] fornicator or polytheist, and none marries her except a fornicator or a polytheist, and that has been made unlawful to the believers
(4) And those who accuse chaste women and then do not produce four witnesses - lash them with eighty lashes and do not accept from them testimony ever after. And those are the defiantly disobedient
(5) Except for those who repent thereafter and reform, for indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful
(6) And those who accuse their wives [of adultery] and have no witnesses except themselves - then the witness of one of them [shall be] four testimonies [swearing] by Allah that indeed, he is of the truthful
(7) And the fifth [oath will be] that the curse of Allah be upon him if he should be among the liars
(8) But it will prevent punishment from her if she gives four testimonies [swearing] by Allah that indeed, he is of the liars
(9) And the fifth [oath will be] that the wrath of Allah be upon her if he was of the truthful
(10) And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy ... and because Allah is Accepting of repentance and Wise

- And also the famous incident at the time of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him

- And the adulteress woman came to the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and confessed to the crime and then enjoined by the Prophet to return and then give birth and then breastfed her child for two years and then came to the Prophet and established the limit and the penalty

From 'Imraan ibn Husayn, may Allah be pleased with (the woman from Juhaynah came to the Prophet a child of adultery, she said: Yanpi God I was led aggravated Ali called the Messenger of Allah wali said: best of it If you put I missed it and he did that he ordered the reveal by her clothes and then he ordered stoned to death, then blessings by Umar ibn al-Khattab said: Call upon God has weighed Yanpi Prophet said: She has repented if divided among the seventy of the people of the city to Usathm Are there better than that excelled herself to God) Narrated by Muslim

- There is one case of Muslim was not punish the crime of adultery
- There is no four witnesses - did not admit to the crime

The solution here

Sincere repentance of the adulterer and the determination not to go back again and will accept the repentance of God
And speed to good deeds[/font]


The basic problem
Is not the correct application of the teachings of Islam


This is because a lot of people take the road away from the teachings of God and the prophets and messengers

This is the cause of all problems and societies in the world

The teachings of Islam and the Constitution is a method for organizing life in this world, as well as prepare for life after death

See me
Theft - murder - adultery - rape - divorce - family disintegration ---
Thesecrimesare forbiddeninthe teachings ofGod
These crimes occur in all countries of the world


Islam is innocent of the States' policies

Last edited by june 7th; 02-25-2012 at 07:36 AM.. Reason: Per TOS: English only in posts.
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Old 02-25-2012, 05:31 AM
 
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There is ideas of God`s Holy Spirit in the Koran, for In Christianity Holy Spirit is there in their bodies and spirit that God bring to them for life ... What do Holy Spirit tell and bring the people of Islam individually for their life ? .
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Old 02-25-2012, 07:26 AM
 
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When Jesus said that "I have come to fulfill the law", what does that mean to a Muslim?
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