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Old 06-18-2016, 05:44 PM
 
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This is the verse in Arabic

مَثَلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّخَذُوا مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ أَوْلِيَاء كَمَثَلِ الْعَنكَبُوتِ اتَّخَذَتْ بَيْتًا وَإِنَّ أَوْهَنَ الْبُيُوتِ لَبَيْتُ الْعَنكَبُوتِ لَوْ كَانُوا يَعْلَمُونَ


The word in blue color اتَّخَذَتْ is the verb that can mean make or take


this verb can be written in 3 letters like this اتَّخَذَ or
in four letters like this اتَّخَذَتْ


اتَّخَذَ refers to a male

اتَّخَذَتْ refers to a female

it has one extra letter at end تْ and this is a suffix to indicate female
So how does that disagree with what I said? Address the issues. It could still easily mean the male builds and the female then takes over the web.

Do this: Go back and watch your video and give me the EXACT QUOTE about 'only' females weaving webs.
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:22 PM
 
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So how does that disagree with what I said? Address the issues. It could still easily mean the male builds and the female then takes over the web.

Do this: Go back and watch your video and give me the EXACT QUOTE about 'only' females weaving webs.
it is enough to watch only one minutes from 1:50 to 2:50



https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=gL5oneNHmIc
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Old 06-18-2016, 09:47 PM
 
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it is enough to watch only one minutes from 1:50 to 2:50



https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=gL5oneNHmIc
Not the stupid Islamic tripe, this video:
The spider's web by David Attenborough.

You gave the link to it as proof that " the House of the spider is made not by the male spider but the female spider ."

Do this: Go back and watch your video and give me the EXACT QUOTE about 'only' females weaving webs.
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Old 06-18-2016, 10:03 PM
 
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Selected miracles from the final Holy Book The Quran
The Quran is The final Holy Book From Allah to all mankind
and it is considered the constitution and the Laws that must be comply by every one in this world
it is more 1400 years old and it also contain stories and kind of history events and hints and signs to scientific facts
these scientific facts are considered miracles because it could not be told by any human being at that time 1400 years ago,

also they are considered proofs against non believers who do not believe in the creator or those who do not follow Islam .





in this place the The Romans was defeated by the Persians in about 1400 years ago.
and this place is the Lowest Place On Earth.

and the Quran mentioned that it is the Lowest Place On Earth in the following verse.
Alif, Lam, Mim.
The Romans have been defeated
in the lowest land....................... The Noble Quran. 30.1:3



for more detail knowledge watch this excellent video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ikfvWUCDOc
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:45 AM
 
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[b][color=indigo] for more detail knowledge watch this excellent video
So you are afraid to address my issues on spiders. That is not honest.
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Old 06-19-2016, 03:39 PM
 
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So you are afraid to address my issues on spiders. That is not honest.
The spider's web by David Attenborough.

in the second 23 he said the biggest best web made by the female
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:07 PM
 
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The spider's web by David Attenborough.

in the second 23 he said the biggest best web made by the female
Did he say the ONLY webs are made by females? No.

Let's review your errors:

Let's look at the translations:

Sahih International
The example of those who take allies other than Allah is like that of the spider who takes a home. And indeed, the weakest of homes is the home of the spider, if they only knew.

Muhsin Khan
The likeness of those who take Auliya' (protectors and helpers) other than Allah is as the likeness of a spider, who builds (for itself) a house, but verily, the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spider's house; if they but knew.

Pickthall
The likeness of those who choose other patrons than Allah is as the likeness of the spider when she taketh unto herself (taketh, not buildth) a house, and lo! the frailest of all houses is the spider's house, if they but knew.

Yusuf Ali
The parable of those who take protectors other than Allah is that of the spider, who builds (to itself) a house; but truly the flimsiest of houses is the spider's house;- if they but knew.

Shakir
The parable of those who take guardians besides Allah is as the parable of the spider that makes for itself a house; and most surely the frailest of the houses is the spider's house did they but know.

Dr. Ghali
The likeness of the ones who have taken to themselves patrons apart from Allah is as the likeness of the spider that takes to itself a home; and surely the feeblest of homes is indeed the spider's house, if they knew (the Truth).

1. There only one translation mentions a female spider and it says taketh, not maketh a web. It could easily mean the male builds and the female then moves in.

2. The web is not a 'house'.

The web is a device to catch prey, not living quarters.

3. The point of the whole verse is that spider webs are the weakest of all all houses.

"The silk that spiders use to build their webs, trap their prey and dangle from your ceiling is one of the strongest materials known. But it turns out it’s not simply the material’s exceptional strength that makes spider webs so resilient; it’s the material’s unusual combination of strength and stretchiness — silk’s characteristic way of first softening and then stiffening when pulled. These properties, scientists have found, vary depending on the forces applied, as well as on the overall design of the web."

How spider webs achieve their strength | MIT News

4. Only female spiders make webs.

At least that must be true, right? Nope, not even that is the case.

Seriously, do your research before you post garbage. I am sick of doing your research for you.
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:33 PM
 
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Let's now review allah's mistakes:

"The likeness of those who choose other patrons than Allah
is as the likeness of the spider when she taketh unto herself a house, and lo! the frailest of all houses is the spider's house, if they but knew." The Holy Quran 29:41

1. The web is not a house. It is a device to catch prey.

2. The spider web is amazingly strong.

"The silk that spiders use to build their webs, trap their prey and dangle from your ceiling is one of the strongest materials known. But it turns out it’s not simply the material’s exceptional strength that makes spider webs so resilient; it’s the material’s unusual combination of strength and stretchiness — silk’s characteristic way of first softening and then stiffening when pulled. These properties, scientists have found, vary depending on the forces applied, as well as on the overall design of the web."

How spider webs achieve their strength | MIT News

Two massive mistakes. Certainly not mistakes a creator of the universe would n=make. But certainly mistakes a man who raped a child would make.
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Old 06-19-2016, 11:36 PM
 
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Let's now review allah's mistakes:

"The likeness of those who choose other patrons than Allah
is as the likeness of the spider when she taketh unto herself a house, and lo! the frailest of all houses is the spider's house, if they but knew." The Holy Quran 29:41

1. The web is not a house. It is a device to catch prey.

2. The spider web is amazingly strong.

"The silk that spiders use to build their webs, trap their prey and dangle from your ceiling is one of the strongest materials known. But it turns out it’s not simply the material’s exceptional strength that makes spider webs so resilient; it’s the material’s unusual combination of strength and stretchiness — silk’s characteristic way of first softening and then stiffening when pulled. These properties, scientists have found, vary depending on the forces applied, as well as on the overall design of the web."

How spider webs achieve their strength | MIT News

Two massive mistakes. Certainly not mistakes a creator of the universe would n=make. But certainly mistakes a man who raped a child would make.
وَإِنَّ أَوْهَنَ الْبُيُوتِ لَبَيْتُ الْعَنكَبُوتِ
This is a blatant error
That the most powerful houses is the spider's web
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:50 AM
 
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وَإِنَّ أَوْهَنَ الْبُيُوتِ لَبَيْتُ الْعَنكَبُوتِ
This is a blatant error
That the most powerful houses is the spider's web
Yes, any honest Muslim would start taking a more thoughtful look at the quran and it's many errors. This one is a whopper.

Grade school children know more than allah did!!

Next Time You See a Spiderweb
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