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Submitted by Syed Mehmood Ali (India), Apr 20, 2008 at 15:37
People around the world write the name of Almighty Allah in unlikely places and says that it is a mistake, this is not true but the truth is that every child is born Muslim and the proof is that the intestine of the new born child is shaped like the first Kalma ( La-Ilaha-Illallah-Mohammedur-Rasool-Allah ) any body wants the proof then take te XRAY of the childs from throat to stomach. See the XRAY and believe in Islam that the Allah is the only Almighty and there is no other god except Allah. In XRAY you will see the whole Kalma writen.
Submitted by German Observer (Germany), May 3, 2008 at 06:35
> As Richard Dawkins argued in The God Delusion, there's no such thing as a Muslim child or Catholic child or Hindu child.
It is perhaps noteworthy, that muslims themselves will not care for Dawkins' arguments, because as the Qur'an argues, every child is born muslim (Sura 7, 172-173; CMJE - CMJE)
The problem lies not in arguing what a child is fit to decide or believe, but [rather] what muslims generally believe (and that is, to repeat, that every child is born muslim).
Just like every person born in the USA is a US citizen even if they have no idea what the US is.
This is a very bad analogy.
It is accepted by consensus via UN every human born on Earth must belong to a Nation or country based on international laws which are man-made and can be changed.
On the other hand there is no consensus amongst all humans on Earth with reference to the Quran, Sunnah or Ahadiths. Besides there is no proofs God exists as real to substantiate the Quran, Sunnah and Ahadith has divine authority.
On the limited basis of the Quran based on a non-proven God it is a serious derogatory insult to insist all humans [including me] are born Muslims.
It is accepted by consensus via UN every human born on Earth must belong to a Nation or country based on international laws which are man-made and can be changed.
On the other hand there is no consensus amongst all humans on Earth with reference to the Quran, Sunnah or Ahadiths. Besides there is no proofs God exists as real to substantiate the Quran, Sunnah and Ahadith has divine authority.
On the limited basis of the Quran based on a non-proven God it is a serious derogatory insult to insist all humans [including me] are born Muslims.
And think if this were actually true. This would make Allah so evil I could not imagine it. This would mean that all of us were 'warned' and all of us non-Muslims will roast in hell. Imagine allah gleefully presiding over an endless firepit where billions of souls are screaming in unendurable pain. THAT is the fantasy ... the sick conclusion....of believing such a thing.
[RIGHT]"en 'abi manzuran: lamma fatah allh ealaa nbyh khybra; asabh min shmh arbet 'azwaj nueala, warbet 'azawij khifafan, weshr 'awaqi dhhb wfdtin, whmar aswdun. qala: fakallam alnnabi alhmara, faqal laha: ma asmuk? qala: yzyd bn shhabin, 'akhraj allh min nsl jiddi styn hmaraan, klhm lm yurkibhum 'illa nabyan, walam yabq min nsl jiddi ghayri, wala min alanbya' ghyruk, 'atawaqqaeuk 'ann turkibani, wknt qablik lrjl mmin alyhwdi, wknt aethr bih emdaan, wakan yjye batni wydrb zahri, faqal lah alnnubya: qad sammaytuk yefwraan, ya yefwr qala: labayk. qala: 'atashtahi al'innatha? qal: la, wakan alnnabi yurkkibuh fi hajatih ; fa'iidha nazal eanh baeath bih 'iilaa bab alrjli, fayati albab fyqreuh brashi, fa'iidha kharaj 'iilayh sahb aldar ; 'awma 'iilayh 'ann 'ajb rswl allhi. qala: falamma qubid alnnabya; ja' 'iilaa byr kanat li'abi alhythm bn alttayhan ; fataradda fiha, fsart qbrhu; jzeaan minh ealaa rswl allhi".
qissat alhimar yaefur 'awradaha (abin kthyr fi kitab albidayat walnnihayat 6/158, waja'at fi edt marajie 'ukhraa minha: (abin al'athir fi 'usadd alghabati, waldhdhahabi fi mizan alaietidal 4/34, walhafiz abn hajar fi lisan almizan 5/426, wafi alfath 6/70, walssiuti fi: allali almsnwet 1/276, wasahih albikhary hadith 2856: wbwwab lah aism alfars walhimar, wafi muslim 49, kama 'awradha alkafi alshshiei 1/184 kitab alhjt: bab ma eind al'ayimat min silah alrswl) walkthyr min almaraje al'ukhra.[/RIGHT]
"Abu perspective: When he opened the God Nabih Khyber; infection than his share of four soles pairs, and four Ozawj slippers, and ten Ooaki gold and silver, black and a donkey. He said: spake the prophet ass, said to him: What is your name? He said: Yazid bin Shihab, remove God descendants of my grandfather sixty donkey, all of them did not Arkphm only a prophet, leaving the descendants of my grandfather others, nor of the prophets else, Otoukek that Turkbna, and you're you to a man of the Jews, and I find it intentionally, and was Ajaa my stomach and hit my back, Prophet said to him: may Smatk Aafora, oh Yafour said Beck. he said: O_iha female? he said: No, it was the Prophet rode in need; if he formally abandoned sent him to man the door, it comes door Afikrah his head, and if left to the owner of the house; motioned for him to answer the Messenger God. he said: when he was arrested the prophet; he came to the well was to Abu Haitham bin Tayhaan; where substandard, and she became his grave; alarmed him to the Messenger of Allah. "
Story ass Yafour cited (the son of a lot in the beginning and the end of the book 6/158, and came in several other references including: (Ibn al-Athir lion in the jungle, and gold in the balance of moderation 4/34, and Ibn Hajar in San balance 5/426, and in the opening 6 / 70, and Suyuti in: pearls made 1/276, and Bukhari interview in 2856: Bob and his horse and the donkey's name, and in the Muslim 49, also cited insufficient Shiite 1/184 book argument: the door is when the imams of the weapon of the Prophet) and a lot of other references.
This is an insult to all non-Muslims.
This is also a very personal insult to me as a human being.
This is also a bashing of non-Muslims on a personal basis.
That is one of the problem with Islam and Muslims [most not all], all they want is their selfish interests and they don't give a damn when they insult and bash non-Muslims.
These comments expose your hate for even the word "Muslim". You hate it so much that even being associated with it in any way you feel insulted. You feel that insult "as a human being" because you you are ignorant to feel so as if, in your mind, Muslims are not human beings so you do not want to be associated with them even this way.
You comments to even suggestion that all babies are born Muslims is in utter ignorance of what is meant by this suggestion.
A "muslim", in Arabic, is someone or something during the act of submitting to Allah by obeying His command. Allah's command could be in any form. It could be in a form of guidance or just "be" ("come into existence") or just "die" and you have no other choice but to "be" ("come into existence") or "die". And when you do that, "come into existence" or "die", you are submitting to Allah (willingly or unwillingly does not matter in these case). Basically that is what is meant by a baby being born a Muslim. Baby is submitting to Allah, knowingly or unknowingly makes no difference, as long as it is Allah's Will.
[41.11] Then He directed Himself to the heaven and it is a vapor, so He said to it and to the earth: Come both, willingly or unwillingly. They both said: We come willingly.
[3.83] Is it then other than Allah's religion that they seek (to follow), and to Him submits whoever is in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly, and to Him shall they be returned.
[15.5] No people can hasten on their doom nor can they postpone (it).
Yes, when Allah commands that you "die", you will not be able to postpone your doom; you will have to die. You will be "muslim" in that action for a few seconds willingly or unwillingly even if you hate the word "muslim" and do not want to be associated with it in any way.
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