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Old 02-06-2012, 06:34 PM
 
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I recently was offered a position. The role is in a new industry but I have many attractive transferable skills. HR has insisted that since its a new industry that I should come in as an entry level associate/ pay range. The problem is that I have over 10 years of transferable professional experience most of which I've gained since earning my graduate degree. HR contacted a week ago with an offer that is over 15k less than what I previously earned. I don't want to take such a drastic pay cut. I've only been out of work a couple months and have been actively interviewing. So I feel that its too soon to take such a drastic reduction. If I accept the job then I wont be available to interview for more lucrative offers. So Id be stuck. I prefer to make it work for the long term by negotiating the salary because its a good role with a great company. The problem is HR doesn't seem to want to negotiate. I sent an email last week to the recruiter explaining my position, reiterating my credentials and asking for a higher salary. The salary that I presented as my minimum is less than my prior but much more that what they're offering. I asked the recruiter to talk to the management team and gave the recruiter a deadline to get back to me. That deadline has come and gone with no response. Should I just move on or give the recruiter the benefit of the doubt? Since they haven't called me should I call them? Should I ask the recruiter for an update or assume that they found my counter proposal unacceptable and just move on? Im more so looking for closure than any further negotiations. If they cant meet my salary I will just continue to contact other firms.... but I would like to know for sure. What do you think?
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Old 02-06-2012, 06:50 PM
 
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Anytime you counter an offer means the offer is no longer viable. In other words, you didn't accept the offer, you countered.

You gave them a deadline-- if they took you seriously or really wanted you-- then they would have met your deadline. At this point you owe nothing more to them, just like they owe you nothing.

I would look for other positions. I would not call them-- let them call you. Rationale being that if they really want you.. they will figure it out. If they don't then what more is there to say to them?

Look for a new job.
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Old 02-06-2012, 08:36 PM
 
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The problem with deadlines is what happens when they ignore it? If you contact them now, the deadline was a meaningless bluff. If you don't contact them, you have no idea if they're still interested. If you didn't throw a deadline in there, you could contact them to see if they're still interested.

This relationship is over. Move on.
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Old 02-06-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Move on. You said your counter was much more than their offer. One cannot ask management, who have budgets to adhere to, to adjust their offer in a major way.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:07 AM
 
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They answered you by not answering you.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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Yep, it's over. Don't go crawling to them. Move on. Lesson learned.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Moon Over Palmettos
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They probably didn't appreciate the deadline bit. They may have anticipated the counter, but the deadline likely blew it for you. You probably came across as a little pompous.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Call your recruiter for an update, that's his job. Keep looking, you'll find something eventually.

I think I would have done the same in your position, good luck.

When I moved from Chicago to Houston in late 2010 everyone told me I will have to reduce my salary expectations. It took me 4 months but got one with exactly same base and bonus conditions even when my skills weren't 100% transferable (trading equity futures in Chi-town to trading Energy in Houston). Take care.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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Call your recruiter for an update, that's his job.
I think the OP stated recruiter and meant HR recruiter, i.e. not a third party recruiter.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:41 PM
 
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I recently was offered a position. The role is in a new industry but I have many attractive transferable skills. HR has insisted that since its a new industry that I should come in as an entry level associate/ pay range. The problem is that I have over 10 years of transferable professional experience most of which I've gained since earning my graduate degree. HR contacted a week ago with an offer that is over 15k less than what I previously earned. I don't want to take such a drastic pay cut. I've only been out of work a couple months and have been actively interviewing. So I feel that its too soon to take such a drastic reduction. If I accept the job then I wont be available to interview for more lucrative offers. So Id be stuck. I prefer to make it work for the long term by negotiating the salary because its a good role with a great company. The problem is HR doesn't seem to want to negotiate. I sent an email last week to the recruiter explaining my position, reiterating my credentials and asking for a higher salary. The salary that I presented as my minimum is less than my prior but much more that what they're offering. I asked the recruiter to talk to the management team and gave the recruiter a deadline to get back to me. That deadline has come and gone with no response. Should I just move on or give the recruiter the benefit of the doubt? Since they haven't called me should I call them? Should I ask the recruiter for an update or assume that they found my counter proposal unacceptable and just move on? Im more so looking for closure than any further negotiations. If they cant meet my salary I will just continue to contact other firms.... but I would like to know for sure. What do you think?
Thanks for the feedback. I decided to call the HR recruiter of the firm. When I went to place the call I noticed a new voicemail from her. She stated that the management team is firm in their offer and would not negotiate. Fine, I thought. So I let her know that I'd be open to further discussions if they were willing to meet or come much closer to my minimum requirement. Otherwise I must decline. resuming the applications and interviews process ....
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