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This is ridiculous! Some of these applications require upwards of an hour to fill out!
Don't do it.
The sooner the actual management realize that only schm-ucks who won't work out comply they'll stop.
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I recall the past two jobs that I got.... Simple resume submissions, a phone call,
interview and bam, you've got an offer.
Which points out all that actually matters or is needed.
Have the job history and work experience detail in a presentable format.
Provide an individually written two paragraph cover letter with that.
Address it all to a specific person if possible.
Done.
A better question is why are you filling out job applications? Job applications are one of the least effective ways to get a job and like you alluded to, are a huge waste of time. Stick to traditional job hunting techniques like networking.
In most cases, you still need to fill out the app after a referral so that you're in their system. This is from personal experience.
I'd say it's probably about 70% of companies that employ this tactic. I agree, it's pretty ridiculous. Not to mention that they're making you do their petty HR data entry for free.
These systems they use must be a gigantic waste of money. See, the point of these systems is to capture your data in their talent pool database so that they might recruit you for positions down the road. The problem is, I've never been or heard of anyone else being recruited this way. So your data sits in this useless database for 6-months to a year and all for nothing. Again, it seems like a gigantic waste of money for the company to maintain such a database.
This is ridiculous! Some of these applications require upwards of an hour to fill out! I have 4 jobs that I list in my work history and I'm forced to type in every little detail pertaining to each job. I tell ya, this is enough to drive one to drink. What is the meaning of all this nonsense?
I recall the past two jobs that I got.... Simple resume submissions, a phone call, interview and bam, you've got an offer. Very simple formula, so why are HR managers rewriting the wheel these days? Maybe this is some kind of attempt to make employees stay put? Who in their right mind wants to spend 8-10 hours at work, an hour on the road both ways, and then 3 hours applying to maybe 4 jobs?
I've filled out applications that take hours, you want the best jobs, you shrug and do it.
I have an application I filled out last September. The organization I am applying for is notoriously slow, the status still says it's being looked at. At this point I'm not expecting to hear anything for 2 more months because of the holidays.
This is ridiculous! Some of these applications require upwards of an hour to fill out! I have 4 jobs that I list in my work history and I'm forced to type in every little detail pertaining to each job. I tell ya, this is enough to drive one to drink. What is the meaning of all this nonsense?
I recall the past two jobs that I got.... Simple resume submissions, a phone call, interview and bam, you've got an offer. Very simple formula, so why are HR managers rewriting the wheel these days? Maybe this is some kind of attempt to make employees stay put? Who in their right mind wants to spend 8-10 hours at work, an hour on the road both ways, and then 3 hours applying to maybe 4 jobs?
Insanity...
It is B.S. but it's because jobs are so scarce now days. I bet these jobs you talk about are not even that well paying which makes it even more absurd.
I think I saw, and I may look it up, that last year there were only 137 million tax returns filed. The significance of this is huge. There are like 315 million people in this country according to the last census. That means that about 178 million people are essentially not involved with substantial, real work. Some may work under the table but if they don't pay for their own benefits and such or retirement than they'll end up a net drain on the economy. And of those 137 million how many are McDonald's type jobs? According to the research a very large percentage. That means eventually the system will collapse. It's only a matter of when, not if.
It is B.S. but it's because jobs are so scarce now days. I bet these jobs you talk about are not even that well paying which makes it even more absurd.
I think I saw, and I may look it up, that last year there were only 137 million tax returns filed. The significance of this is huge. There are like 315 million people in this country according to the last census. That means that about 178 million people are essentially not involved with substantial, real work. Some may work under the table but if they don't pay for their own benefits and such or retirement than they'll end up a net drain on the economy. And of those 137 million how many are McDonald's type jobs? According to the research a very large percentage. That means eventually the system will collapse. It's only a matter of when, not if.
Most married couples file 1 tax return, add in children who do not work, and retired folks that do not have any enough taxable income to worry about filing and that number drops considerably.
A better question is why are you filling out job applications? Job applications are one of the least effective ways to get a job and like you alluded to, are a huge waste of time. Stick to traditional job hunting techniques like networking.
You think people who use networking to get a job don't fill out the requisite paperwork?
A better question is why are you filling out job applications? Job applications are one of the least effective ways to get a job and like you alluded to, are a huge waste of time. Stick to traditional job hunting techniques like networking.
This makes no sense; it is a requirement by most companies, especially any with a federal contract, to have an application process, in which filling out an application is part of it.
While a network is useful, it is doubtful a network is going to span hundreds of companies that someone may be applying for over the course of a few months. Even being a referral, many times the person still must fill out an application.
Many companies have strict guidelines regarding the hiring process. My company for example, there is no back door or hidden network to get in, it is mandatory everyone applies through the application process. The only exceptions are some executives and specialized IT types who the company pays headhunters to go out and find, and handle a lot of the application process.
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