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Old 11-29-2013, 01:20 PM
 
Location: 60015
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Originally Posted by winkosmosis View Post
Usually big companies don't suffer. They all have the same bad hiring practices and they're doing great.

Small businesses can fail because of a few crappy employees but it seems like the opposite with bigger ones.
Actually, they're not. There's a lot of them that have finally had this catch up to them. And if it hasn't today, it will soon in this economy. People are looking for a lot of value in products and services today so they can get the most from their money. Crappy products made by crappy companies are going to the wayside, and so are their employees.

Small businesses get hit harder simply because of the percentage impact a single bad hire can make. Big companies are just sheilded from this because of numbers. But if they hire bad in bulk, guess what? Same problem.
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A couple of them I have to use a PC with a certain web browser. I was thankful to have a PC with the requirements but some folks don't!
That specific web-browser thing is because they used proprietary ways of coding to make their test possible. Sometimes this is unavoidable, but if they hired someone good to create that test, it wouldn't have had anything proprietary in it. Another case of not the best person doing the job.
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Old 11-29-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Earth
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They only send the work overseas that requires all labor and no brains. The high level corporate jobs always stay in America. No bank or fortune 500 corporation is going to send its corporate jobs overseas because the best talent is in America. Just like Iphone makes the Iphones overseas and the brains that develope them and run apple are in America.
Even labor jobs that require no brains need a measure of quality. Sending labor jobs overseas is another reason we have such high unemployment. In Texas they STILL have those jobs and guess what?

Unemployment is some of the lowest in the country.

Allot of this economic crisis is the result of greedy employers.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:28 PM
 
Location: 60015
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Allot of this economic crisis is the result of greedy employers.
But it started here domestically with the first roofing company that used illegals and was able to cut their price in half. Guess what? They got the business. So other companies had to do it too, and there went all the jobs.

It's the same thing with outsourcing. Ultimately it's the consumer who's to blame, not the company. If the consumers didn't demand cheaper and buy it, even with inferior quality, it would no longer be made or sold.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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But it started here domestically with the first roofing company that used illegals and was able to cut their price in half. Guess what? They got the business. So other companies had to do it too, and there went all the jobs.

It's the same thing with outsourcing. Ultimately it's the consumer who's to blame, not the company. If the consumers didn't demand cheaper and buy it, even with inferior quality, it would no longer be made or sold.
Not in all cases. Take Coach leather goods, a minor luxury brand. They used to be American made. They started outsourcing production to China and factories in other low cost countries. Did they pass any of the savings onto their consumers? NO!!! They still charged the same prices for their products even though they were saving a lot in production costs due to lower wages. Also in many cases, outsourcing is not product based. Everybody thinks manufacturing all the time, but services are outsourced too. There are plenty of accountants in the USA for example that are outsourcing tax preparation on the sly to low wage countries like India for pennies on the dollar THEIR cost and charging their American clients FULL American prices. They pocket all the difference and they don't even tell their clients what they are up to.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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What about all the unfilled jobs in this country, right now? I'm tired of hearing all the excuses from business why they aren't filled.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Earth
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What about all the unfilled jobs in this country, right now? I'm tired of hearing all the excuses from business why they aren't filled.
I see allot of homeless that could use a job. Sure some homeless don't want to work but allot do.
I have ran into homeless who work daily labor and are looking for full time jobs.
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Old 11-29-2013, 05:21 PM
 
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Take away all the HR psychos and the unneeded requirements and you'd see the jobs filled.
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:33 PM
 
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What about all the unfilled jobs in this country, right now? I'm tired of hearing all the excuses from business why they aren't filled.

Yeah it just doesn't fly when there are millions of unemployed people and then they claim that they cannot find someone. They can't find a single person that can do the job? It's BS plain and simple.
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Old 11-29-2013, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts for the time being
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Where I work, as soon as a job comes open, they put a temp into it. They then advertise it as an open job, first internally, then externally, and do multiple interviews, knowing full well that they will give the job to the temp "so they don't have to start all over again on training". Even internal applicants get ignored in favor of the temporary workers. First time I have ever seen that in a workplace.
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Old 11-29-2013, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Yeah it just doesn't fly when there are millions of unemployed people and then they claim that they cannot find someone. They can't find a single person that can do the job? It's BS plain and simple.
What if the people available are unqualified to do the job? That situation is more than people think. Just because someone needs a job doesn't mean they can actually do the job. Sometimes, it's cheaper to let a position go unfilled than to try to fill it. Mistakes in some positions can become extremely costly.
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