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Old 03-01-2015, 07:27 AM
 
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Right, and lying is grounds for immediate rejection in my book.
In a job interview, if someone smells like a smoker and says that they don't smoke, well, it's just bad form and it shows an inability to control oneself.

It's kind of an IQ test, really. If you want the job bad enough, you do what you have to do.

I worked as a personal assistant for a lady who was vehemently horrified and sickened by the smell of smoke and smokers. She only knew that I was a smoker because I told her, way after the fact. I was able to keep it totally separate from work.

 
Old 03-01-2015, 08:26 AM
 
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If I had a job interview I would not smoke the entire day before the interview. I would wear clean clothes and be freshly showered and groomed. I don't smoke in my house and I don't drive a car. So, no, you would not know. If I were hired I wouldn't smoke during work hours, so management would probably never know that I do.

Just wondering if there are others who conduct themselves in this way. Thanks for all of the responses.
I quit ages ago, but this is exactly what I did before interviews. I don't remember if I smoked in the morning before taking a shower (I don't think I did) but Binanca Smoker's Breath does wonders in terms of getting the smell out of your breath. It's absolutely possible to hide it for an interview, but I think it's going to be tough to do so for an extended period of time. If they ask, tell them that you recently quit. That way if you get hired and they end up smelling smoke on you at some point, you can tell them you had a relapse so that you won't necessarily be thought of as having lied on the interview. As long as your job isn't selling smoking cessation products and you're good at your job, I think you'll be okay.

I recall on one job, the hiring supervisor saw me smoking outside a couple weeks after starting and remarked to me that he would have never hired me had he known I was a smoker. I'm not a fan of smoking, but I know how addictive it can be, and sympathize with smokers for being treated like second-class citizens.
 
Old 03-01-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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I have never had an interviewer asked if I smoke not in the last 10 years or the last 20 years or ever. It may be a different story, if I started smoking and got it on my clothes and hair.
It's technically not legal to ask an interviewee if the smoke, correct?
 
Old 03-01-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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It's technically not legal to ask an interviewee if the smoke, correct?
It is legal to ask.
 
Old 03-01-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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It's technically not legal to ask an interviewee if the smoke, correct?
It's honestly never come up in any interview, whether it was flipping burgers when I was younger or at Fortune 500 corporate offices now that I am older. I have never had a chance to consult a lawyer over something that has never happened to me.
 
Old 03-01-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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Yes, people know if you smoke.

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Old 03-01-2015, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Cambridge, MA
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[/i]In keeping with the OP: I go into interviews "clean." A relaxed smoke is my reward for finishing the appointment as well as stress reduction relative to wondering how it went. If I were ever asked whether the habit that dare not speak its name is part of my life, I'd point-blank ask, "What business is it of yours?" Then if the questioner is reduced to babbling or can't provide an acceptable answer they'll have lost what might have been their most promising candidate. The desire to hire an ethical, competent, and productive employee is perfectly understandable. The zeal to hire only people who can fill an arbitrary check-off list of "lifestyle choices totally irrelevant to the job and workplace that we deem appropriate" is intrusive and not a little scary.

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Old 03-01-2015, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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If I had a job interview I would not smoke the entire day before the interview. I would wear clean clothes and be freshly showered and groomed. I don't smoke in my house and I don't drive a car. So, no, you would not know. If I were hired I wouldn't smoke during work hours, so management would probably never know that I do.

Just wondering if there are others who conduct themselves in this way. Thanks for all of the responses.
Yes, I can absolutely tell you smoke and would not hire you. I smoked for twenty years.

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It's technically not legal to ask an interviewee if the smoke, correct?
Yes, it is absolutely legal. If I'm asking, I already know your smoke and I'm not going to hire you. If I ask and you admit it, I'm not hiring you. If I ask and you lie, I'm not hiring you.

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Old 03-01-2015, 08:29 PM
 
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Mental illness is rampant in todays work culture. When you go on job interviews, pay attention to the questions asked of you and the overall demeanor of the hiring manager. It's not whether you smoke, smell like a happy meal from Mcdonald's,are overweight or if you have visible nose hair that really matters, it is identifying and trusting your instinct about the mental status of the person interviewing you.

Does anyone really want to work for a boss who is looking up your nose to see if you trimmed your nose hair properly or trying to smell your hair, well of course not. I am sure that is why some of these types of hiring managers have so much experience interviewing new candidates because people can't run out the door quick enough once they start working for them.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 05:21 AM
 
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A Cotinine test is part of our normal screening exam for serious applicants. If they claim to be a non smoker and test shows otherwise, they are not selected simply because of integrity. Smokers are normally not selected for many reasons. The two main reasons are healthcare costs and worker productivity. Smokers have been shown to take 20 minutes of every hour smoking or socializing with thier fellow smokers. Some of our larger manufacturing locations are smoke free. Not enough time on break or lunch to get off location so most just stick it out all day until thier shift ends.
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