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Old 06-29-2015, 08:51 AM
 
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Takes 2-3 months just for their canned rejection email.


Seriously the most frustrating, worthless experience I've had.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Western NY
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When I worked for the Federal government (NIH, Bethesda, MD) we all knew when a position was real and those that were advertised because of requirements. I never was involved in hiring anyone then because I was not a manager ever, but it was really broken then. Buddies got their buddies in, the money wasters were promoted, the fake job listing were maybe 50% and caused lots of wasted effort on the public.

Today, the money wasting is worse and I am sure the money wasters are still promoted. I have no idea if buddies still get their buddies in, but one thing is for absolutely sure: The transformation of the hiring process to USAJobs has caused the wasted effort on the public who think these are real positions to increase vastly.

So in other words in say 1995 10 people applied to a fake listing which was wrong to those 10 applicants, now thousands and thousands apply to a fake listing. I also think the amount of fake listing has gone up to about 95% of the positions on USAJobs, where-as I am pretty sure when I worked in the government it was only about 50%.

Hard to say, I never was a manager, but the government is broken. Can any of us do anything about it? Not much probably but count on things getting worse probably.
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Old 06-29-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Altadena, CA
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When I worked for the Federal government (NIH, Bethesda, MD) we all knew when a position was real and those that were advertised because of requirements. I never was involved in hiring anyone then because I was not a manager ever, but it was really broken then. Buddies got their buddies in, the money wasters were promoted, the fake job listing were maybe 50% and caused lots of wasted effort on the public.

Today, the money wasting is worse and I am sure the money wasters are still promoted. I have no idea if buddies still get their buddies in, but one thing is for absolutely sure: The transformation of the hiring process to USAJobs has caused the wasted effort on the public who think these are real positions to increase vastly.

So in other words in say 1995 10 people applied to a fake listing which was wrong to those 10 applicants, now thousands and thousands apply to a fake listing. I also think the amount of fake listing has gone up to about 95% of the positions on USAJobs, where-as I am pretty sure when I worked in the government it was only about 50%.

Hard to say, I never was a manager, but the government is broken. Can any of us do anything about it? Not much probably but count on things getting worse probably.

Thanks, you have confirmed the corruptness of the existence of USAjobs.gov and I will not apply to them anymore. I applied to three supposedly fantastic opportunities in the past nine month, only to not be "qualified" enough to make it to the second round, so discouraging. Life is short and this country is going down the drain and I don't want to work for any US government agency.
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Old 06-29-2015, 02:20 PM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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There are some good jobs there but it is a big old numbers game.

On my last search I applied to about 250 relevant jobs
40% were a total black hole no status updates nothing
20% I got found not qualified (ridiculous)
35% I got found not among best qualified (a bit more understandable)
~5% I got referred to selecting official and about 1/3 of those I at least got a phone call.
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Old 06-29-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Western NY
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There are some good jobs there but it is a big old numbers game.

On my last search I applied to about 250 relevant jobs
40% were a total black hole no status updates nothing
20% I got found not qualified (ridiculous)
35% I got found not among best qualified (a bit more understandable)
~5% I got referred to selecting official and about 1/3 of those I at least got a phone call.

That would be about the right ratio. But to rename your list:

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40% were a total black hole = Total fake position listing for somebody already there. Just a formality.
20% I got found not qualified = Total fake position listing for somebody already there. Just a formality.
35% I got found not among best qualified = A buddy is hiring a buddy and is required to actually review and get some similar candidates, but it is a fake position listing still and still just a formality. They must reject some similar candidates to put there buddy in.
~5% I got referred to selecting official and about 1/3 of those I at least got a phone call = The real positions.
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So about 95% fake is pretty much the way it is.
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:31 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Takes 2-3 months just for their canned rejection email.


Seriously the most frustrating, worthless experience I've had.


FALSE, a former coworker found a federal job on their and now works at the Social Security Administration Office. So the site is not worthless at all it's just something you need to fix and come up with a better game plan.
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Old 06-30-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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The jobs are real; it's just very hard to get them over federal employees who have competitive status and applicants with veterans' preference points. They probably receive thousands of applications for most of their job postings.
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:10 PM
FBJ
 
Location: Tall Building down by the river
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The jobs are real; it's just very hard to get them over federal employees who have competitive status and applicants with veterans' preference points. They probably receive thousands of applications for most of their job postings.
Those are the types of jobs you only apply to when you are employed since the process is so long.
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Old 06-30-2015, 07:12 PM
 
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I didn't see any "fake" jobs on usajobs... just because you didn't get it doesn't mean it is fake >.>

but yes, it takes a while to get a reply back. But I've gotten a reply back both times I applied, once I didn't get job, the second time I did.
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Old 07-01-2015, 12:16 AM
 
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FALSE, a former coworker found a federal job on their and now works at the Social Security Administration Office. So the site is not worthless at all it's just something you need to fix and come up with a better game plan.
One person out of millions of people applying does not prove whether some or many of the jobs are or aren't fake job postings. Of course 'some' people get jobs from the site.
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