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A few spit on. Others received death glares. So yes, my personal experience shows that Orthodox and Hasidic Jews are quite unwelcoming, unlike the less religious Jews.
the Baal Shem Tov (founder of Chassiduth) teaches us every Jew is precious, and to love every Jew, and to view every person favorably, for this nullifies harsh decrees upon high.
When we speak ill of other Jews, and when we speak ill of any person, we are drawing down harm upon the Jewish people. This in addition to being lashon hara, which is as severe as murder, because it kills the person saying it, the person hearing it, and the person it is being said about.
the Baal Shem Tov (founder of Chassiduth) teaches us every Jew is precious, and to love every Jew, and to view every person favorably, for this nullifies harsh decrees upon high.
When we speak ill of other Jews, and when we speak ill of any person, we are drawing down harm upon the Jewish people. This in addition to being lashon hara, which is as severe as murder, because it kills the person saying it, the person hearing it, and the person it is being said about.
May we all stop the lashon hara, B'H"
Spoken like a real Orthodox Jew. And seconded by this Orthodox Jew. We have enough non-Jews who hate. We certainly don't need our fellow Jews, like at the beginning of this thread, hating us, too. Shame on them taking the low road and empowering those that would harm us with their "support" of anti-Jewish belief.
Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against them. Everyone has the freedom to be as religious or secular as they please. The most religious and Orthodox person is fine in my book (from any religion) as long as they are respectful of others who choose not to live such a lifestyle. The fact that that happened to my friends was more disappointing than anything. We weren't upset or angry that they were treated like that. We were disappointed that a fellow member of the same religion would treat more secular members in that way. Already we are a small population. There is no need to alienate even more Jews or not consider us Jewish.
Again, not trying to say hateful things about the Orthodox community. Simply stating my person experiences. I hope that is understood. And no, not 100% of my encounters with Orthodox have been negative. In fact, the majority have been positive. But as a subsection of the Jewish religion, they are generally the less tolerant ones (again, in my experiences).
Yes that is true, may we treat every Jew and every person with kindness and respect
Hashem loves each and every one, and we are to emulate His ways
Shabbat Shalom jesse, may your Shabbat be filled with joy and delight, B'H"
No, that is not correct, nor is it part of what Judaism teaches. Torah teaches us to view every person favorably, and in turn Hashem will view us favorably. Also the acts of a single yid affect the whole world. Literally. A good deed, a kind word light up the heavenly chambers. The opposite, G-d forbid, damages others and increases the time we spend in exile.
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Don't get me wrong. I have nothing against them. Everyone has the freedom to be as religious or secular as they please. The most religious and Orthodox person is fine in my book (from any religion) as long as they are respectful of others who choose not to live such a lifestyle. The fact that that happened to my friends was more disappointing than anything. We weren't upset or angry that they were treated like that. We were disappointed that a fellow member of the same religion would treat more secular members in that way. Already we are a small population. There is no need to alienate even more Jews or not consider us Jewish.
Again, not trying to say hateful things about the Orthodox community. Simply stating my person experiences. I hope that is understood. And no, not 100% of my encounters with Orthodox have been negative. In fact, the majority have been positive. But as a subsection of the Jewish religion, they are generally the less tolerant ones (again, in my experiences).
I understand completely what you are saying and your experience especially about what you saw in Israel is very common and it does turn violent quite a bit.
Orthodox and Hasidic Jews dislike everyone that isn't Orthodox or Hasidic. But as for the majority of the Jewish population, that's not true at all. I definitely think Jews get along better with each other and with Catholics for some reason, but we don't dislike other religions. We just end up having more in common with each other and Catholics. At least that's my situation. And many other Jews I know seem to vibe better with Catholics than any other religion.
I think the reason for Catholics is because their structure is similar to Judaism from what I've noticed...
I know some Christians who are good friends with a Jewish family as well as the rest of their kids. These Ultra-Orthodox Jews do come over and eat with them, but.....they bought them their own personal huge outdoor grill so they could cook their kosher meat or whatever on it.
theflipflop, if one of your kids decided to (chas v'shalom) become an observant Conservative Jew and daven daily at an egalitarian minyan, would you treat him or her any differently?
Glossary:
chas v'shalom: roughly equivalent to "God forbid"
daven: Yiddish for Jewish ritual praying
minyan: a quorum of Jews in a religious setting
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