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Old 07-21-2022, 06:44 AM
 
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One major question of ships and shabbat has to do with being seasick by the time shabbat arrives, so there are many rules about when one may embark on a trip over water.

There are also rules about how far one may travel from a "home" location on Shabbat (which is more relevant to the intercity bus question).

Some collections of relevant laws

https://halachipedia.com/index.php?t...e_over_Shabbat
https://judaism.stackexchange.com/qu...hip-on-shabbat
https://dinonline.org/2016/09/11/boat-on-shabbos/
https://outorah.org/p/5088/
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Old 07-21-2022, 08:49 AM
 
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One major question of ships and shabbat has to do with being seasick by the time shabbat arrives, so there are many rules about when one may embark on a trip over water.

There are also rules about how far one may travel from a "home" location on Shabbat (which is more relevant to the intercity bus question).

Some collections of relevant laws

https://halachipedia.com/index.php?t...e_over_Shabbat
https://judaism.stackexchange.com/qu...hip-on-shabbat
https://dinonline.org/2016/09/11/boat-on-shabbos/
https://outorah.org/p/5088/

Thanks for all those links (which I read through -- all of them). So, I'll take the answer to my question as being: "It depends." Which works for me!

I've often wondered how our ancestors immigrating to the U.S. from Europe dealt with being on the sea during Shabbat.

-- Rachel (who never gets seasick on a cruise!)
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Old 04-24-2023, 03:08 AM
 
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Disgusting behaviour from the Rabbinate. This is partly why the Rabbinate needs to have less power.
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Old 04-24-2023, 05:04 AM
 
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Disgusting behaviour from the Rabbinate. This is partly why the Rabbinate needs to have less power.
I believe the Orthodox Rabbinate was given its power by Prime Minister Ben Gurion when the modern State of Israel was established. After it being like this for 75 years (come this week), I can't see it changing any time soon.
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Old 04-24-2023, 02:32 PM
 
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Thanks for all those links (which I read through -- all of them). So, I'll take the answer to my question as being: "It depends." Which works for me!

I've often wondered how our ancestors immigrating to the U.S. from Europe dealt with being on the sea during Shabbat.

-- Rachel (who never gets seasick on a cruise!)
for many immigrants it was preservation of life, so pikuach nefesh (Hebrew: פקוח נפש) may apply, the principle in halacha (Jewish law) that the preservation of human life overrides virtually any other religious rule.

i am speaking as a lay person, and am not poskening (posek is a legal scholar who determines the position of halacha)
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Old 04-25-2023, 04:51 AM
 
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for many immigrants it was preservation of life, so pikuach nefesh (Hebrew: פקוח נפש) may apply, the principle in halacha (Jewish law) that the preservation of human life overrides virtually any other religious rule.

i am speaking as a lay person, and am not poskening (posek is a legal scholar who determines the position of halacha)
In general pikuach nefesh allows an override of most but not all religious laws. It can't be used if one is forced to bow down to idols as in the worship another religion/false gods as in this case one is supposed to die for Judaism.
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