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Old 06-21-2008, 10:00 AM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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Why do Ashkenazis have to allow Sephards in their synagogue?
The better question is "why shouldn't they?"

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Or even worse, imagine Ashkenzis going to the same temple as Falashas! Oy vey!
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:03 AM
 
Location: CNJ/NYC
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For many of us that don't know what Ashkenazis and Sephards are, can you enlighten us? Instead of googling these names thought I'd get it straight from the horses mouth. Thanks! If horse isn't kosher, sorry for the reference.
Ashkenazim are Jews from Eastern/Central Europe, while Sephardim are from Spain/Portugal/Iberia. These are two groups of Jews that had developed somewhat differently culturally. Yiddish is the language of Ashkenazim, while ladino is the language of the Sphardim.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:14 AM
 
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Ashkenazim are Jews from Eastern/Central Europe, while Sephardim are from Spain/Portugal/Iberia. These are two groups of Jews that had developed somewhat differently culturally. Yiddish is the language of Ashkenazim, while ladino is the language of the Sphardim.

Yes that's the truth of the matter. Many of the "sefarditas" found in Turkey and Bulgaria etc are those who left or rather were exiled from the Iberian peninsula in 1492+. But one thing is certain, that these people have greatly contributed culturally to the areas from which they come.
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:52 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Waaaay old thread being dragged up here, but for the record - my Synagogues have all been welcoming to Sephardim. My childhood Temple had a separate Shabbat worship for Sephardim, but many of them also joined our services... including my "godparents" and a few family friends. I think we can ignore this thread now, considering the OP is no longer a member.
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Old 06-22-2008, 11:34 AM
 
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Waaaay old thread being dragged up here, but for the record - my Synagogues have all been welcoming to Sephardim. My childhood Temple had a separate Shabbat worship for Sephardim, but many of them also joined our services... including my "godparents" and a few family friends. I think we can ignore this thread now, considering the OP is no longer a member.
The truth is that I have never heard of a rift between the Ashkenazi and the Sephards. Is there any truth to that at all?
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Old 06-22-2008, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Cali
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The truth is that I have never heard of a rift between the Ashkenazi and the Sephards. Is there any truth to that at all?
Some Ashkenazis consider themselves superior to Sephardis on account of their "eurocentric" culture.

Here in Los Angeles I've also come across some Persian Jews who have told me that they would not have anything to do with Jews from say, Yemen, Morroco, or Turkey.
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Old 02-24-2019, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Bethel, CT
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My synagogue is almost entirely white, but there is one black member. As for Ashkenazi-Sephardic, our synagogue is almost entirely Ashkenazi but the rabbi is Sephardic, and she incorporates some Sephardic tunes into the service occasionally, but it’s definately conducted in the typical American-Ashkenazi manner.

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Old 02-25-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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The better question is "why shouldn't they?"
Actually, the bettor question is: "Why feed the troll?"
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Old 08-26-2023, 10:57 PM
 
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I know that this is a very old thread.


Our synagogue in Cincinnati (Conservative leaning toward Orthodox -Conservadox) is about 50.50 Ashkenazi-Sephardic


I wish I grew up Sephardic during Pesach
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Old 08-27-2023, 05:39 AM
 
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The truth is that I have never heard of a rift between the Ashkenazi and the Sephards. Is there any truth to that at all?
Never noticed it down here, but perhaps that is a luxury of those with larger Jewish communities. When it's a small community, everything has to be merged into one as best one can.

During the 1950's, synagogues were being bombed; not sure if it mattered which tradition; the same in 2017 in Charlottesville which has a diverse congregation.

Here it is more about those who are southern and trace their roots 100, 200 or more years and those new comers. (There is always an "in" and "out" group.) Pecans in charoset (with bourbon added for adults); collards for Passover; cow brains substituted for the traditional southern recipe of pork brains in fried brains and eggs. (My cousin who is a leader in the Orthodox community sneaks ham biscuits; it was a bit of an upset when my aunt got a job at Smithfield hams a long time ago.) And then why are members of the Chinese community buried in some old Jewish cemeteries? (For the reason, read the book mentioned below.)


https://www.jewishsouth.org.
Wandering Dixie Dispatches from the Lost Jewish South by Eisenfeld

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