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[Tenebrae]

Originally Posted by luzianne

PS - I lived in rural Missouri and none of what you mention happened there, but I'm not saying it couldn't. But still, that's different than violent crime and murder.

Ah, so if the bullet comes from a hunting rifle wielded by a good ol' boy trespassing on private property, it's not violent crime?
I'm sure my parents would have been comforted by that had I been hit by the stray bullet instead of the house - at least it wasn't from some urban thug.

-T.

[luzianne]

Originally Posted by Tenebrae

Ah, so if the bullet comes from a hunting rifle wielded by a good ol' boy trespassing on private property, it's not violent crime?
I'm sure my parents would have been comforted by that had I been hit by the stray bullet instead of the house - at least it wasn't from some urban thug.

-T.

You don't even make sense. If there were hordes of hunters deliberately hunting down and shooting and killing people, that would be a reasonable analogy. A stray bullet from the rifle of one hunter trespassing on private property is a whole lot different than a city full of thugs INTENDING to be violent.

[MOKAN]

Originally Posted by rwiksell

Do you recognize the difference between a generic crime rate, and the probability of being victimized by a crime?

If I owned a company that was looking into moving to KCMO, here would be some of my thoughts:

-I will be centrally located, so my employees can live in any kind of neighborhood they want.
-Therefore, the only kind of crime to worry about would be what might happen to my employees during work hours
-Therefore, night-time stuff is not an issue. Also, domestic violence stats are irrelevant.
-Also, my employees will not be dealing drugs or joining gangs, so we can ignore those types of violence, too.
-So if I just make sure the immediate area of my business is a vibrant place that discourages general mischief, my employees will be as safe there as they will be anywhere else.

Point being, there are only certain types of crime that concern a business owner looking to relocate.

Are there any stats out there that show the most dangerous cities in order of which you're most likely to become a victim?

I find it odd you wouldn't be worried about crime at night. I would be. I mostly would be concerned about employees who may be coming or going at night, especially during a time when few others would be around. You might also worry about being broken into, etc. I wonder if there are any actual people making decisions actually only care about daytime crime and not what happens in the area of their business at night.

[pnw2016]

"Urban" and "thugs" are buzzwords, too. One refers to the area destroyed and one refers to those who destroyed it.

When violent crime is reported in KCMO, it usually occurs in the "urban core" and it is usually committed by "thugs".

I think the reason so many companies move to JoCo KS is because most of the thugs don't actually live there.

The greatest concentration of thugs in JoCo can be found in one of the two jails (a second facility was built to house the growing number of thugs stupid enough to venture into JoCo with criminal intent).

New companies may be coming to KCMO - but, I bet a lot of their employees will choose to live in JoCo...

[SPonteKC]

Originally Posted by pnw2016

"Urban" and "thugs" are buzzwords, too

You are confusing "buzzwords" with "racist code words".

[pnw2016]

Originally Posted by s.davis

You are confusing "buzzwords" with "racist code words".

Confusing "buzzwords" with "realist code words". Okay..., got it!

[SPonteKC]

Originally Posted by luzianne

A stray bullet from the rifle of one hunter trespassing on private property is a whole lot different than a city full of thugs INTENDING to be violent.

But KC is not "full of" those kinds of people or incidents. In fact, they are quite rare. Violent acts are rarer than they have ever been in human history, in point of fact. You are much, much more likely to be catastrophically injured in a car accident than be the victim of any injurious crime. And the suburbs are, in fact, full of cars and roads.

Your fear, like so many people's reactionary and unjustified fear, is misplaced and irrational. It's also quite sad. It's like being so scared of snakes that you fear walking in grass.

[luzianne]

Originally Posted by s.davis

You are confusing "buzzwords" with "racist code words".

How is "urban" racist? kcmo and other urban living promoters here talk urban all the time. There is nothing racist about it. All urban is to me is the older area of the city. And thugs are thugs, no matter what their race. There are white thugs; I don't like them any better than any other thug. But if you look at the statistics, the majority of the crime in Kansas City is being done by black thugs. It's not racist to state that fact. Look at arrest records and it's pretty clear.

I have black friends who think the same way I do. They have even said it's an embarrassment for black thugs to continue to commit crimes and behave the way they do.

[luzianne]

Originally Posted by s.davis

But KC is not "full of" those kinds of people or incidents. In fact, they are quite rare. Violent acts are rarer than they have ever been in human history, in point of fact. You are much, much more likely to be catastrophically injured in a car accident than be the victim of any injurious crime. And the suburbs are, in fact, full of cars and roads.

Your fear, like so many people's reactionary and unjustified fear, is misplaced and irrational. It's also quite sad. It's like being so scared of snakes that you fear walking in grass.

Well, on a crime index of 1 to 100, with 100 being the safest, Kansas City ranks a 3. So I'd say you are wrong. Wow! Kansas City is safer than 3% of other cities!

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I've walked in grass and fields my whole life. But if I lived near fields where the snake bite index was 3 on a scale of 1 to 100 with 100 being the safest, I'd stay out of the fields.

[luzianne]

Originally Posted by pnw2016

I think the reason so many companies move to JoCo KS is because most of the thugs don't actually live there.

The greatest concentration of thugs in JoCo can be found in one of the two jails (a second facility was built to house the growing number of thugs stupid enough to venture into JoCo with criminal intent).

New companies may be coming to KCMO - but, I bet a lot of their employees will choose to live in JoCo...