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Old 06-02-2007, 06:40 AM
 
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I'm sorry, is there really propaganda out there that says sitting in a smoky bar for an hour once a week will give you cancer? does it come from the same people who say that smoking four cigarettes while out on Saturday will kill you just as quickly as someone who smokes 3 packs a day?
Putting the health risk factor aside for a minute, there are other reasons to object to public smoking. When I visited friends in Louisville a while back, I really felt sick sitting in the smoky bar. It's was hard for me to fully enjoy myself after a while with all the fumes swirling around me. It made me feel nauseated. The smell got into my hair, my clothes, it was horrible. I'm happy to learn about the ban going into place this summer since we'll be relocating there soon.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Mt. Pleasant, SC
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Putting the health risk factor aside for a minute, there are other reasons to object to public smoking. When I visited friends in Louisville a while back, I really felt sick sitting in the smoky bar. It's was hard for me to fully enjoy myself after a while with all the fumes swirling around me. It made me feel nauseated. The smell got into my hair, my clothes, it was horrible. I'm happy to learn about the ban going into place this summer since we'll be relocating there soon.
Me, too, cinnamon girl!! I hate the smoke swirling around me!! It makes my eyes red and it makes me cough all the time! It gets in my hair and clothes and then it is embedded in my pillow at night and that is all I smell! YUK!!
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Old 06-02-2007, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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Do NOT set in a smoke filled bar, problem solved. No body forced you to go there or stay there.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:01 PM
 
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Do NOT set in a smoke filled bar, problem solved. No body forced you to go there or stay there.
True, but I could counter with step outside to smoke, problem solved. We could go 'round and 'round on this, so perhaps we could agree to disagree. This is one of those issues where people are rarely swayed to the other side.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:30 PM
 
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This smoking thing, in my opinion, is one of the biggest drawbacks to Kentucky. Where else can you not locally buy a bottle of red wine (that has many proven health benefits) yet find deadly cigarettes being celebrated as part of the American way? It makes no sense. When I was a smoker, I generally didn't light up indoors, and especially not in restaurants. I can't imagine trying to shop in a flea market where you're having to hold your breath to keep from taking in all the smoke. Plus the odor and the tar gets into all the merchandise. That's just a really bad business decision not to mention a public health nuisance. Kentucky ranks number one in the nation for smokers per capita so don't expect the problem to go away any time soon. As a lot of the smokers say, if you don't like it, you can move.
Maybe someone can help me out or add to this. I am so curious about the fact that KY has such a strong baptist presence, especially in rural communities, and yet smoking is so prevalent there. Please forgive me if I am wrong, but I thought that those who are with particular relgious groups avoid smoking and drinking. Who are the smokers in those "dry" rural communities?
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:19 PM
 
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Putting the health risk factor aside for a minute, there are other reasons to object to public smoking. When I visited friends in Louisville a while back, I really felt sick sitting in the smoky bar. It's was hard for me to fully enjoy myself after a while with all the fumes swirling around me. It made me feel nauseated. The smell got into my hair, my clothes, it was horrible. I'm happy to learn about the ban going into place this summer since we'll be relocating there soon.
Louisville's full smoking ban takes affect the end of this month, so it will no longer be a problem
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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True, but I could counter with step outside to smoke, problem solved. We could go 'round and 'round on this, so perhaps we could agree to disagree. This is one of those issues where people are rarely swayed to the other side.
True or one could counter there can be bars that allow smoking, and bars that don't. That way both sides are happy. I mean it's not like tobacco is a major cash crop here in Kentucky that has supported 1000's of families across the state ...
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:19 PM
 
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True or one could counter there can be bars that allow smoking, and bars that don't. That way both sides are happy. I mean it's not like tobacco is a major cash crop here in Kentucky that has supported 1000's of families across the state ...
Davart, with all the farmer buy out's, how important is tobacco to the state in 2007? I would be interested in seeing some data, but I can't imagine it being as huge as it was even 20 years ago.....also, KY does not have any of the major tobacco companies with corporate headquarters here as Brown&Williamson left Louisville.
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Far Western KY
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Davart, with all the farmer buy out's, how important is tobacco to the state in 2007? I would be interested in seeing some data, but I can't imagine it being as huge as it was even 20 years ago.....also, KY does not have any of the major tobacco companies with corporate headquarters here as Brown&Williamson left Louisville.
Stx, I understand that but the tobacco bases are still active and the farmers that didn't take buy outs are still growing it. Across the road from my farm is nearly a 100 acres of tobacco and that is one of many fields in the area from just a few acres to huge crops. Both black and burley are still big cash crops around here that provide a lot of job and equally a lot of money into the area.

I understand that some folks don't like smoking, that's fine but some of these chest thumping anti everything they don't like needs to go. Most of their arguments are based on quack data that is not supported with real science. Doubt that pick up a copy of 'Penn and Tellers BS', whom neither one of them smoke but prove that the argument of second hand smoke wages is bunk.
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:37 AM
 
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True or one could counter there can be bars that allow smoking, and bars that don't. That way both sides are happy. I mean it's not like tobacco is a major cash crop here in Kentucky that has supported 1000's of families across the state ...
That's actually a pretty good idea!
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