No rural wifi hawkins county tn

[NY Annie]

It is the story anywhere other than a city. If you want rural/country, you will not find unlimited or low-cost internet access. Grab your cell and find a hotspot in one of the cities - Panera, McDonald's, most hospitals, hotels, libraries, GreasyHouse (Huddle), pancake houses, truck stops, visitor centers, and probably lots more places.

When we want to download something, we head out to eat and download. Then we save it to a finger-drive or the cloud.

[JMT]

Originally Posted by NY Annie

It is the story anywhere other than a city. If you want rural/country, you will not find unlimited or low-cost internet access. Grab your cell and find a hotspot in one of the cities - Panera, McDonald's, most hospitals, hotels, libraries, GreasyHouse (Huddle), pancake houses, truck stops, visitor centers, and probably lots more places.

When we want to download something, we head out to eat and download. Then we save it to a finger-drive or the cloud.

Again, that simply is not true. There are very rural areas in the Upper Cumberland area of Tennessee with lightning-fast gigabit internet service:

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[Submariner]

For many 'services' it takes a minimal level of population-density before it can become profitable to provide the service.

Consider cable companies. On a block where there are 100 homes running cable underground to that block pretty much guarantees you of 100 customers. Even if you are only charging $20/month multiplied by 100 customers and you have a cash flow of $2,000/month [$24,000/year].

On the other hand consider a rural area where homes are spaced a mile apart. Now a cable company would need to run 100 miles of cable underground to reach the same number of customers.

Things that may be profitable in a city, are not done out in the country.

Originally Posted by JMT

Again, that simply is not true. There are very rural areas in the Upper Cumberland area of Tennessee with lightning-fast gigabit internet service:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumber...nty,_Tennessee

Population
• (2010) 56,053
• Density 82/sq mi

[JMT]

Originally Posted by Submariner

For many 'services' it takes a minimal level of population-density before it can become profitable to provide the service.

Consider cable companies. On a block where there are 100 homes running cable underground to that block pretty much guarantees you of 100 customers. Even if you are only charging $20/month multiplied by 100 customers and you have a cash flow of $2,000/month [$24,000/year].

On the other hand consider a rural area where homes are spaced a mile apart. Now a cable company would need to run 100 miles of cable underground to reach the same number of customers.

Things that may be profitable in a city, are not done out in the country.






https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumber...nty,_Tennessee

Population
• (2010) 56,053
• Density 82/sq mi

Cumberland County is not the same as the Upper Cumberland. Cumberland County is one of 14 counties in the Upper Cumberland. And Cumberland County does not have gigabit internet service.

But these rural, poor Upper Cumberland countie--each as poor as Hawkins County--do have gigabit internet:
Clay (pop. 7.752, 33.2/sq mi)
Jackson (pop. 11,566, 37.7/sq mi)
Overton (pop. 22,051, 50.9/sq mi)
Pickett (pop. 5,142, 31.2/sq mi)
Smith (pop. 19,447, 61/sq mi)

The local telephone cooperative that services these rural counties is the one offering broadband internet, not a cable company. Twin Lakes Telephone Cooperative, headquartered in the tiny town of Gainesboro (pop. 945), has installed fiber optics throughout its rural network, even in the most remote hollers and valleys in the poorest counties, and continues to expand its coverage area. It also offers broadband/gigabit in the largest county in the region, Putnam (pop. 75,931, 180.3/sq mi) in the cities as well as the rural areas.

[Submariner]

My point was that you are NOT 'very rural' when you have an urban population-density.

[JMT]

Originally Posted by Submariner

My point was that you are NOT 'very rural' when you have an urban population-density.

This thread is about Hawkins County which has a population of 56,563, a population density of 116.7 per square mile, and is part of the Kingsport-Bristol Metropolitan Area. In fact, part of the Kingsport Urbanized Area lies within Hawkins County.

While it's certainly true that, in general, rural counties don't have widespread broadband internet access, there are counties in Tennessee much more rural and much more poverty-stricken than Hawkins County that do have broadband/gigabit internet, even in the most remote parts of those rural counties.

I'm with the OP. Given that Hawkins County is part of the state's 5th largest metropolitan area, it should have better internet access.

[switzerlandgal]

If we had not been lied to, ( or maybe they actually believed it) about service coming, THEN supposedly it was a priority of the governor to get this for everyone, we could have made a better decision. We could have known that there would be NO getting an education from home, no online business conducted, no working from home, NO WIFI home security systems, Etc. So hopefully we Can sell our property to someone who doesn’t want these advantages! Really sad to do this because we had such high hopes for here. “ thanks” again to the leadership ( not) of this state!

[Serious Conversation]

Originally Posted by switzerlandgal

If we had not been lied to, ( or maybe they actually believed it) about service coming, THEN supposedly it was a priority of the governor to get this for everyone, we could have made a better decision. We could have known that there would be NO getting an education from home, no online business conducted, no working from home, NO WIFI home security systems, Etc. So hopefully we Can sell our property to someone who doesn’t want these advantages! Really sad to do this because we had such high hopes for here. “ thanks” again to the leadership ( not) of this state!

How does Haslam have anything to do with this? I get that it's frustrating to not have decent internet, but if you are moving very rural, cable and phone companies are not going to build out internet. It is not cost effective for them to do so. I would say there are many areas off Goshen Valley once you get a bit from its 11-W intersection that do not have municipal water and are only serviced by wells. You have to do your due diligence when moving to a rural area.

Simply punching in the address on Charter or whatever internet provider services the area on their website would have told you what you needed to know. If you were still in doubt, call.

I drove down Goshen Valley shortly after this thread started. I was in the general areas for a Christmas dinner, and I barely had data reception with Verizon, and I only followed the road for several miles off 11-W. No one would expect broadband in that rural of an area.

[Submariner]

Our governor pushes any program that promises to help business grow. A few years ago he pushed through a multi-million dollar deal to string three loops of fiber to rural portions of this state. It was called the 'three ring binder'. But the only facilities that were ready to tap into this were the state university campuses.

Fairpoint owns the fiber in this state. When they were running all of that fiber, they did run a spur through my town even. But it only goes to the cell phone tower. Nobody else can tap into the fiber.

Our phone company has no intention of messing with fiber.

The towns to our East and West have no cell phone towers so they lack fiber presence also.

For most of this state, it is far too rural to make running cable or fiber to each household profitable.

Verizon is a huge mega corporation. If they want fiber ran to every cell phone tower they can do it, even in rural areas. Because they make so much profit nationwide, they can afford to do this for towers that might only have a dozen cell phones in range.

Our governor made speeches and made promises that all of Maine was going to get access to broadband, that was how he was able to spend millions on grants to pay for the fiber 'backbone'. Does that honestly mean all of Maine has broadband? Of course not. State University campuses do.