02-05-2013, 12:49 PM
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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We live in Winston-Salem, NC. We have a second home in a rural area northeast of Raleigh, NC. I am considering selling that home and purchasing a home in the Pigeon Forge area; that home would also be a second home.
While I envision it as a weekend getaway type of place, it needs to be close enough to services and large enough to be able to serve as a full-time residence. In a worst-case scenario (such as losing my job), we would likely sell our primary home and live in the second home for lower overhead - this happened a few years back (moved to our second home for about two years, waiting for a new job). I do accounting for a living, so it's not all that likely for this scenario to come up again (previous employer went bankrupt), but I like to have options just in case.
Can anyone speak of the market in Pigeon Forge? We prefer a cabin-style (lots of wood - siding, floors, ceilings, walls) home. Probably two bedrooms plus a loft (a lot of cabins in the area are listed as 2 BR, but are more accurately 1 BR plus a loft). My goal is to stay under $150k; I'm open to foreclosures and short sales. I've also thought about renting the place out when we're not there, though my wife might not be too keen on that idea - she prefers something that feels more like it's hers; having strangers stay there would make it feel less so.
We've only been to the area a few times but have enjoyed our time there. I thought of Pigeon Forge because it's fairly practical for a weekend getaway (about 4 hours from Winston-Salem) and definitely feels like we are "getting away." Our current place outside of Raleigh doesn't feel as much like a getaway. My main hesitation is probably that PF is perhaps not as convenient to a larger city as our current second home.
Any suggestions and comments are welcome.
02-05-2013, 04:10 PM
Location: Knoxville
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Pigeon Forge is known for tons of tourists and hard place to get around, especially when different car shows and events are scheduled and as long as your good with that, then several places to select. You would probably have no problem in renting it out, due to all the jobs and such, so that would be a good way to even rent on short term basis. As far as convenience, Knoxville is only a short 30 to 45 minute drive away. Good luck and happy hunting!
02-05-2013, 05:30 PM
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Thanks!
I do like Knoxville - we looked into moving there, but didn't find work there. My wife likes Chattanooga better.
The traffic in Pigeon Forge is definitely insane at times...we would schedule our trips to avoid the worst times and dates.
02-05-2013, 05:42 PM
Location: Knoxville
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"..we would schedule our trips to avoid the worst times and dates."
You mean like Holidays, all summer, Christmas time and when car shows, etc are in town? Sorry, could not resist.
I quit advertising in Seveir County because of the traffic issues. The drive from Knoxville to PF and Gatlinburg can be anywhere from 45 minutes to over 3 hours. Yes, three hours...I went to a wedding in The Park and it took us 40 minutes to get to offramp at I-40, and 2 hours and 20 minutes to get to the Park.
I once did an inspection in Gatlinburg when the rod run was going on and it took me over 2 1/2 hours to drive from I-40 to edge of Gatlinburg.
Make sure if you buy something there to get it inspected by an experienced home inspector. There are a lot of issues with some of the cabins built there.
02-05-2013, 05:55 PM
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Actually, we wouldn't be using it for holidays at least. We got stuck in traffic one trip; I couldn't figure out where so many people came from, and why they came. Didn't know about car shows being a draw.
02-05-2013, 07:23 PM
Location: Knoxville
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The rod run is wall to wall car show all along the highway, with tons more riding up and down the road looking and being looked at. Zillions of rat rods.
02-06-2013, 05:44 AM
Location: Seymour TN
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rat rods....hilarious. You may want to look at Sevier County as a whole. I don't know if it makes a difference to you whether or not the home is isolated (as a lot of cabins seem to be) or if you have neighbors close by to check on things. If the home is all wood I would worry about termites so I'd want to make sure it's inspected extremely well. There are a lot of scam artists and unprofessionals so try to find quality companies (ex. angieslist).
02-06-2013, 06:07 AM
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Thanks for the tips. We'll definitely do a lot of research before deciding if we want to proceed.
02-06-2013, 06:18 AM
Location: Sevierville, TN
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Like all have said, traffic issues are going to be your number one issue. Sorry to say.
The Rod Run happens twice a year; in the spring and in the fall. To say the traffic is crazy is an understatement!
However, I personally enjoy visiting the Rod Run. We really enjoy old muscle cars (hence my name!) and the walk is good for us up the Parkway and back.
If you are seriously considering the area, might I suggest outside of Pigeon Forge. If you are looking for something rustic, yet not too far from the busy scene of PF/Sevierville, there are several areas you could look at. First, off of Chapman Highway, between Sevierville and Seymour. There are several roads that go back and up into the mountains. Also, Boyd's Creek area. There are areas there that offer more rustic style homes and your are close to Seymour as well as 15 minutes to the Parkway/66 to go into town. You could find something off of Douglas Dam Road (St. Rt. 139) that goes between Sevierville and Dandridge, but you would be away from any eminities you mention. Not much in Dandridge, but it is beautiful and there is a WalMart in Jefferson City.
Living here is not everyone's cup of tea, as evident by the posts, but we love it. We live in northern Sevier County, away from the hustle and bustle. We still deal with traffic, that's for sure, but we are close to both Sevierville/PF/Gatlinburg and close enough to Knoxville to work and enjoy all that fine city has to offer.
My suggestion is to call an realtor who is experienced in the Sevier County area. There are several, I am happy to recommend one that has lived here her whole life. Just PM me if you are interested.
Like NJDevil suggested, be careful who you call. There are just as many scam artists here as anywhere, and the one's who like to prey on unsuspecting out-of-towners sadly do exist. Angieslist is a great place to start!
And for the record, being that I live here, there is only a tiny window of time where there aren't any tourists here...like the end of January. That's about it. There's always something going on here, whether it's a church gathering, a car show, a convention, etc. Traffic is an everyday issue; don't be fooled into thinking there is an "off" season. That's just the way the cabin rental companies try to make it seem!
I wish you the best on your decision, I know it's a tough one. Happy house hunting!
02-06-2013, 06:52 AM
Location: The Conterminous United States
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oldmanbob
Pigeon Forge is known for tons of tourists and hard place to get around, especially when different car shows and events are scheduled and as long as your good with that, then several places to select. You would probably have no problem in renting it out, due to all the jobs and such , so that would be a good way to even rent on short term basis. As far as convenience, Knoxville is only a short 30 to 45 minute drive away. Good luck and happy hunting!
Sevier County is teeming with rentals. Get in line. And you'll need to find a reputable company to manage it; someone that won't take your money and will actually take care of the rental. I've known many a person with delusions of making money on rentals only to find that they can barely find anyone to rent it and when they do they often ruin the place, steal, etc.
I'd go with Mrs. Mopar's suggestion for an agent that knows the area and is reputable. There are many, many of these cabins for sale and for a reason.
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People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)