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6 Month UPDATE In Henderson it's so quiet and peaceful and unlike Santa Monica where I was tormented by the sounds of sirens and gunshots on a nightly basis and it couldn't be more different here just silence.
[mod cut-- rude, personal attack] Where in Santa Monica did you hear "gunshots" exactly? You seem to be the only person in Santa Monica who has heard them. Santa Monica is not a dangerous, crime-ridden city full of people shooting off guns. It is a very wealthy and safe city with excellent schools. Crowded yes, but that's because it is a tourism destination for Europeans and Asians. Definitely not dangerous and, again, no "gunshots" like you proclaim.
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In CA I had to drive through horrendous traffic to get anywhere and like 15 miles to a shopping district oh how it is just insane to live in CA and here I am going back.
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You lived in Santa Monica and had to drive 15 miles to get to a shopping district? Really??? The shopping districts on Wilshire, Olympic or Third Street aren't that far apart! Maybe 7 miles at the most. The city of Santa Monica isn't even 15 miles wide! Exaggerate much?
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I know Las Vegas got a lot of flack in the past about bad healthcare but that is changing people in a big way. Saint Rose Hospitals have teamed up with Stanford to provide better healthcare and Nevada Cancer Institute has teamed up with UC San Diego. I felt like the healthcare in CA is absolutely horrific and a big run-around. I accomplished in one or two visits in NV that the 5 years in CA I could NEVER get done with those arrogant medical professionals in CA and sorry to the few Doctors I met in CA that were actually great and trying amidst all the nonsense.
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U.C.-San Diego had to pull out of the Nevada Cancer Institute, unfortunately. Strange that you would call California medical professionals "arrogant" when it was California medical professionals who were trying to save Nevada's lone cancer center.
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The most glaring error in perception is comparing Henderson to Santa Monica. I am unfamiliar with many of Henderson's nuances. But, I am familiar with Santa Monica. Santa Monica is located on the Pacific Ocean. The weather is almost idyllic. However, if you want to travel just 5 miles at the wrong time in Santa Monica it can take an hour or longer. This really affects the quality of life. You can literally walk it faster.
The price to live in Santa Monica is divided into those who have been there forever, under rent control and the rest. This creates an unusual dichotomy of residents. Santa Monica is very homeless friendly. There is really a bright line gap between the haves (i.e. those who can afford to buy or rent in Santa Monica) and the have nots (e.g. the homeless and those who have been in the same apartment for years under rent control).
Santa Monica has a traditional Bohemian vibe. It is next to Venice and is home to places like Beyond Baroque, a world class cultural treasure. The original poster is comparing a very urban environment to a suburban environment. Still I'm hoping that if i relocate to Henderson, I have access to an urban environment, with it's own unique cultural treasures.
At the margin is really this: Do you want to live in a nondescript tiny and often delapidated living space or spend your hours , while at home, in a pleasant comfortable home, you can own. The price is the weather. If I live in Henderson, I will make certain I invest in multiple air conditioners and air filters.
I am hoping to discover the natural beauty of the desert. I believe it exists or I would not move there. The Pacific Ocean is unbelievably healing. Living close to water constantly moving with its ionization is a benefit you really cannot understand until you live there. The absence of water is the most significant geographic difference. Maybe this can be duplicated with some inside the house water movement.
For what it's worth, those are my thoughts. I'm looking next week to purchase something.
Why not try to buy a home in Southern California that is outside of Santa Monica but within a short driving distance to the ocean?
The first places that came to mind for me if I was in your shoes would be inland Ventura County (east Ventura, Santa Paula or Fillmore). You could even get a decent place in Oxnard probably.
If you want to actually own a home in the Mojave Desert then go out to Palmdale/Lancaster where you're only 45 min. to 1 hour from Santa Monica.
If you love the ocean as much as you say you do, you'll regret moving to Las Vegas where it will become a 5-6 hour trip to visit it -- and -- expensive bill for the gas tank!
Santa Monica is much more urban than Henderson. Henderson is much more classcally suburuban.
Even though, like much of LA, SM is car centric, it still has an urban vibe, and some parts are very walkable. You may have to drive to those neighborhoods, park your car, and get out and walk, but once your there, you can ditch the car. In many ways I really liked SM. The problem is that it's embedded in all of Cali's problems that I don't want to deal with.
Except for malls like The District, and maybe a tiny bit in what passes for a downtown in Henderson (caveat, I've never been there), there's nothing really like this in Henderson. You drive somewhere, do what you came to do, then drive to the next place.
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The most glaring error in perception is comparing Henderson to Santa Monica. I am unfamiliar with many of Henderson's nuances. But, I am familiar with Santa Monica. Santa Monica is located on the Pacific Ocean. The weather is almost idyllic. However, if you want to travel just 5 miles at the wrong time in Santa Monica it can take an hour or longer. This really affects the quality of life. You can literally walk it faster.
The price to live in Santa Monica is divided into those who have been there forever, under rent control and the rest. This creates an unusual dichotomy of residents. Santa Monica is very homeless friendly. There is really a bright line gap between the haves (i.e. those who can afford to buy or rent in Santa Monica) and the have nots (e.g. the homeless and those who have been in the same apartment for years under rent control).
Santa Monica has a traditional Bohemian vibe. It is next to Venice and is home to places like Beyond Baroque, a world class cultural treasure. The original poster is comparing a very urban environment to a suburban environment. Still I'm hoping that if i relocate to Henderson, I have access to an urban environment, with it's own unique cultural treasures.
At the margin is really this: Do you want to live in a nondescript tiny and often delapidated living space or spend your hours , while at home, in a pleasant comfortable home, you can own. The price is the weather. If I live in Henderson, I will make certain I invest in multiple air conditioners and air filters.
I am hoping to discover the natural beauty of the desert. I believe it exists or I would not move there. The Pacific Ocean is unbelievably healing. Living close to water constantly moving with its ionization is a benefit you really cannot understand until you live there. The absence of water is the most significant geographic difference. Maybe this can be duplicated with some inside the house water movement.
For what it's worth, those are my thoughts. I'm looking next week to purchase something.
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U.C.-San Diego had to pull out of the Nevada Cancer Institute, unfortunately. Strange that you would call California medical professionals "arrogant" when it was California medical professionals who were trying to save Nevada's lone cancer center.
NCI wasn't Nevada's only cancer center. Both Comprehensive Cancer and 21st Century Oncology run successful practices here in Las Vegas, in addition to the smaller providers. I believe Comprehensive has just inked a deal with a major university for some research and clinical trials.
NCI didn't do well financially because the local medical community felt that some of Heather Murren's remarks had openly insulted them, so the referrals just didn't come in. It certainly wasn't the fault of UCSD. Vegas politics.... *shrugs*
I do understand where you are coming from Matt, just wanted to clear up the confusion on the cancer centers.
Matt, you simply cannot compare Palmdale-Lancaster-The Antelope Valley to Las Vegas. The commute from Palmdale to Los Angeles is a soul drainer and can take you 1-2 hours to travel the 60 miles. Further , if you want local culture, you will be hanging out at the Palmdale Mall.
Ventura is priced higher. I can get on the Channel Islands, if I want to lease the land. Oxnard is unremarkable, too. Vegas only takes 4 hours plus or minus and you have easy access to a vibrant city.
I'm in the process of nailing down where to live. I'm readind as much as I can...but at this point I'm stuck with where to move. I wanted opinions both +/- and be honest.
My 18 yr old son has decided to stay in PA so I'll be moving solo. All I want is somewhere I can ride quads, shoot guns, and go to a local pub. Glitz and glammer occasionally. Tucson, AZ (Marana) and Las Vegas(Henderson) I understand it's hot! I dispise the cold.
My decision might end up based off of where I can get employment.
I moved to Henderson June 2011 after living in Santa Monica, CA for five (5) years and before that being raised in Colorado. Each place is totally different and has good and bad things about living in these places. I left CA because I just got so sick and tired of the traffic, pollution and the majority of people who are missing a human compassionate chip. Nevada was the closest place to get away and within driving distance to go back and visit friends.
OK. Las Vegas/Henderson is excruciatingly HOT in the summer months. I have no idea how the average person functions. I felt like it was going to swallow me up at some point. Some people love it and for me I just know I couldn't look forward to every summer of inferno hell lol.
I live in the Green Valley Henderson area and it's beautiful and quiet and the people are very friendly. They don't really get out and talk to each other but whatever it is what it is. It is so much harder to make friends in Las Vegas/Henderson there is almost no social element other than people running to the casinos and shows and unless you have family/friends here it can be lonely.
I love the Green Valley area because it's so walk-able, clean and modern and everything is within walking distance it's great; and running trails. I can walk across the street to the store, Kohl's, CVS, Walgreen's, restaurants, Fresh and Easy, Gold Gym, fitness centers; you name it it's here. One thing about Henderson is that it was a very well planned city I just adore it here. Now people always say that Henderson is slightly higher priced than the rest of Las Vegas and well after paying $2000 in rent for 5 years in Santa Monica I will gladly pay $1000 for a 3 bedroom House any day here in Henderson. Oh and my house is just lovely; in a gated bedroom community and I will miss it but I will not miss the heat. The house sales are just amazing. There are a lot of homes for sale and they average here in Green Valley $119,000 and up; yes you read right. I would also suggest not signing a 12 month lease if you've never lived here before because during the summer I wanted to turn around and run back to CA but I'm locked into a 12 month lease. However I'm glad I stuck it out because I wouldn't have known how beautiful it gets in the winter here.
Now the negatives. The electric bill OMG. Paying like $300 a month for electricity was a shell shocker. Nevada Energy has got to be the biggest rip off and none of it's subsidized so word to the wise find a place that includes some or part of the utilities. Because after electricity, gas, phone, cable, car. I'm paying about what I was paying in living costs in California and I think slightly more. Nevada isn't supposed to have some state taxes and I'm confused about that because sometimes I'm charged tax at the stores and sometimes I'm not. My only other complaint is that it is so darn hard to meet people here. It's so quiet compared to what I left behind in Santa Monica. I remember thinking something was really wrong or the houses had ghosts in them lol. Now I don't like Las Vegas as much as Henderson but it's still friendly. However I wouldn't go strolling anywhere in North Las Vegas much of it is like projects and ghettos; just older neighborhoods more "run down" than Henderson. I do love how Nevada has much safer drivers than CA and much more considerate. I never feel as though I'm going to get run down like I always did in CA. Ahh it's so nice and calm here.
I really hope this post helps anyone who is contemplating a move to Las Vegas area. Note there just aren't a lot of jobs in Las Vegas unless you are a Professional or in the Medical field. The schools both College and Secondary just aren't that great although Henderson boasts having a better school district. The last thing I will say is that Henderson and Las Vegas are so diverse just a mecca of people from all around the country and world and I love that.
Happy Hunting!
I haven't been to Las Vegas in 25-28 years, so I am basing this on old stats! First, when I was there, Henderson was a separate city, with open space in-between it and LV. I am assuming that there is probably a lot of buildings where there once was air.
I also think that there are areas of Henderson that are MUCH, MUCH lower on the crime index than is Las Vegas. The overview has Henderson at less than HALF of the national average, and thats a real good sign.
There is a very good chance that we might end up moving there, or at least BUYING there, and then moving in about 1 1/2 years, when my wife can retire with full benefits. Is there, or are there some areas of Henderson that are NOT loaded with stretches of empty homes, and thug traffic? It seems like a lot of places that fell prey to the housing dump can end up with first 2, then 5 then 9 homes vacant on the same block. That is an open invitation to crime. So, if you can help by suggesting some of the 'cleaner' areas of Henderson I would appreciate it.
Jobs/Schools are not important. We will both be drawing retirement, and our kids are old enough that schools are not a consideration.
So, I heard someone mention Summerlin. Is that an area of Henderson, or a separate city? Any suggestions that will help me focus on which area to research via city-data and realtor .com would help.
Thanks.
I haven't been to Las Vegas in 25-28 years, so I am basing this on old stats! First, when I was there, Henderson was a separate city, with open space in-between it and LV. I am assuming that there is probably a lot of buildings where there once was air.
I also think that there are areas of Henderson that are MUCH, MUCH lower on the crime index than is Las Vegas. The overview has Henderson at less than HALF of the national average, and thats a real good sign.
There is a very good chance that we might end up moving there, or at least BUYING there, and then moving in about 1 1/2 years, when my wife can retire with full benefits. Is there, or are there some areas of Henderson that are NOT loaded with stretches of empty homes, and thug traffic? It seems like a lot of places that fell prey to the housing dump can end up with first 2, then 5 then 9 homes vacant on the same block. That is an open invitation to crime. So, if you can help by suggesting some of the 'cleaner' areas of Henderson I would appreciate it.
Jobs/Schools are not important. We will both be drawing retirement, and our kids are old enough that schools are not a consideration.
So, I heard someone mention Summerlin. Is that an area of Henderson, or a separate city? Any suggestions that will help me focus on which area to research via city-data and realtor .com would help.
Thanks.
and, Happy valentines Day!
YOu have failed Las Vegas 101.
Back to the wikipedia or whatever until you have some understanding of how Las Vegas works.
First off Las Vegas is a valley in Clark County Nevada. It consists of three cities and a large expanse of unincorporated Clark County which is in no city. The strip is in the unincorporated county and is in no city.
The three cities are Las Vegas, Henderson and North Las Vegas. Henderson is mostly a bed room community where the income comes from the strip. Las Vegas is more diverse with areas eqluivalent too or nicer than Henderson and at the other end some of the most troubled neighborhoods. North Las Vegas ranges from quite troubled at the southern end adjoining Las Vegas to very nice suburban in the northern parts.
The unincorporated county also ranges across a very diverse strata from the economic engine on the strip to very difficult neighborhoods in the east to the best parts of Summerlin in the west.
So before you think about moving here go study a little. It is not secret and is actually not very complicated. However you do have to look.
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Henderson or Las Vegas? I think Henderson..help?!
