[SLCPUNK]

Originally Posted by clutchcargo777

So you think it's ok for the government to take from me as long as it doesn't effect you.

You don't really think that wont lead to them doing the same to you?

I suppose in the early 40's in Germany your advice would be "don't be a Jew"

What a drama queen.

[tijlover]

I'm not going to pay the new cigarette taxes but I'm going to continue to smoke! I'm totally unaffected by it, even if they raise the cigarette tax to $5 a pack!

You're exempted if you roll your own! Been doing that for 13 years!

Buy a $13-14-15 bag of smooth cigar tobacco, buy a box of empty filtered cigarettes ($2), dry the tobacco on cookie sheets for a few days, crush the tobacco with your hands, and sift it into the tubes. I can now do 4 cigarettes at a time, while watching TV.

Now, if you buy the cigarette tobacco, you're looking at $42 for a one pound bag, and I find little difference between smooth cigar tobacco and cigarette tobacco! And, not only that, the Indian tobacco is largely chemical free, so you're not smoking the poison sticks they sell in the stores, loaded with chemicals. And you can also order bags of tobacco, online, from the Native Americans.

These miscalculating idiots in Carson City are hopeful this tax will raise $350 million, but let's not spend the money, build the buildings, until it arrives.

The smoking tourists who have come here to load up on cartons of cigarettes to take back with them to NY or other high tobacco tax states, we'll miss some of that revenue! According to one article, we've been a big supplier of smuggled cigarettes into AZ due to their $2 a pack tax, and we'll be missing that revenue as well, as the Mexicans will now jump in and fill that void! And, how many will just start rolling their own or take to vaping!

$350 million projected revenues? I'll believe that when Lake Mead rises 50 feet this summer!

[NLVgal]

Originally Posted by SLCPUNK

What a drama queen.

Oh , please. I've lived in SLC, and I was legit punk in the eighties. Does SLCPunk = drinking coffee?

[ScoopLV]

Originally Posted by NLVgal

Oh , please. I've lived in SLC, and I was legit punk in the eighties. Does SLCPunk = drinking coffee?

I'm guessing it's more like ringing the doorbell of the stake president and then running away.

[Tornado Baby]

The most reliable tax in this state!

[PinkString]

Originally Posted by clutchcargo777

I don't care for social engineering by my government. Once people start quitting because big brother told them to via taxes, the tax revenue addicted government will move on to something else they don't really like. Maybe something you like.

Notice that I said the cigarette taxes could help those that smoke that may be trying to quit. An aid of a sort. And incentive. They only quit if THEY want to and had been planning it, not because some government expects them to with the new taxes.

The government already taxes things i like, shopping. I hate taxes, but it's a personal thing.

[Vegas_Cabbie]

Originally Posted by clutchcargo777

So you think it's ok for the government to take from me as long as it doesn't effect you.

You don't really think that wont lead to them doing the same to you?

I suppose in the early 40's in Germany your advice would be "don't be a Jew"

You CAN choose whether or not you smoke.
You CANNOT choose your ethnicity... Unless your name is Rachel Dolezal lol... Then you can be a whitish blackish president of an NAACP chapter.

[clutchcargo777]

Originally Posted by Vegas_Cabbie

You CAN choose whether or not you smoke.
You CANNOT choose your ethnicity... Unless your name is Rachel Dolezal lol... Then you can be a whitish blackish president of an NAACP chapter.

Extrapolated out, you could apply that logic to a lot of unpleasant scenarios. The point is, government should not strong arm people into doing what it wants and then throw out a false choice in order to make it seem it is not forcing it's will .

[tijlover]

I would so love to see it sometime, these legislators with their projected income scenario's, with an increase in the cigarette tax, and? Everybody just quit!

That $350 million then, some earmarked for the new UNLV medical school, how else would they raise that money?

In England, they went overboard, in the 90's, raising cigarette taxes, the black market moved in, and to squelch the black market, they had to lower the cigarette taxes!

[Raiderman]

I wonder what the reaction would be if they raised the gas tax by $1 per gallon. Simple, right? Just stop driving! Completely avoidable tax