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Old 12-27-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Selden New York
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Is that kid even 20 yet? I don't think he realizes what goes on in the world every day. Probably still thinks the government has his best interests in mind... haha.

21 Wise @ss.

 
Old 12-27-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Here we go again with this B*S
Do you believe any one species should be able to affect another? You don't believe hunters should take deer, but is it OK for deer to destroy habitat and thus, endanger other species?

Deer eating away at forests nationwide - US news - Environment - msnbc.com

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Deer damage to agriculture in New York was between $58 million and $60 million in 2003, said Paul Curtis, an associate professor and extension wildlife specialist at Cornell University.
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In pre-European settlement times, deer population density was 10 to 15 deer per square mile. In the 19th century, numbers dwindled as land was cleared for agriculture and commercial hunting became widespread.
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....Much of the land cleared for agriculture has since been converted back to wild land as farmers abandoned the business.
Now, in places like southern New York and northern Pennsylvania, there are 30 to 35 deer per square mile, Curtis said.
“In some ways we’ve been too successful at bringing the deer back,” Curtis said.
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Today’s high deer population may shape how the country’s forests look decades from now. The animals are reducing the number of trees and seedlings and affecting which species will survive, forestry experts say.
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There are no saplings, no underbrush for ground nesting birds,” said Richard Parker, regional director of the Genesee State Park Region. “There will be no regeneration of the forest. In 40 to 50 years, as the current forest dies, there will be nothing to replace it.
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With voracious deer gobbling red oak, sugar maple and white ash seedlings, species like black birch and beech are gaining an edge. The loss of ground-level trees also removes habitat for several species of songbirds that need them for nesting.
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“We view it as problem of our own making,” said Laura Simon, field director of urban wildlife and sanctuaries program for the Humane Society of the United States. “We have created an ideal landscape for deer.”
 
Old 12-27-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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Please stop making sense...this upsets the Bambi Huggers.
 
Old 12-27-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by IlonaG View Post
Here we go again with this B*S
Yea those darn government receipts. Must have been faked.
 
Old 12-27-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Nassau/Queens border
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Originally Posted by SilverBulletZ06 View Post
Yea those darn government receipts. Must have been faked.
I'll say this again so that you can understand.

Government agencies that (supposedly) manage deer populations have a financial incentive to keep deer populations artificially high.
 
Old 12-27-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Nassau/Queens border
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Please stop making sense...this upsets the Bambi Huggers.
Thank You - I would LOVE to hug Bambi.
 
Old 12-27-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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I'm sure Bambi wants nothing to do with you.
 
Old 12-27-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: bellmore
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Originally Posted by IlonaG View Post
I'll say this again so that you can understand.

Government agencies that (supposedly) manage deer populations have a financial incentive to keep deer populations artificially high.
NO YOU ARE WRONG ,THE GOVT./STATE AGENCIES ARE IN BED WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES TO REDUCE THE DEER HERD DUE TO THE AUTO COLLISONS ...WHY WOULD THEY KEEP IT HIGH ? THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT MANAGEMENT OF THE DEER ...long island bow hunters can legally shoot as many does/antlerless deer as they can ,long as they bring in the deer to the ridge check station to get the additional tags ...so were are they keeping it high???? new jersey agencies pay to have deer netted/trapped by professionals and killed on the spot in residential areas !!! AGAIN PAY TO DO THIS !!! get your facts straight before posting ...
 
Old 12-27-2011, 04:14 PM
 
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NO YOU ARE WRONG ,THE GOVT./STATE AGENCIES ARE IN BED WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANIES TO REDUCE THE DEER HERD DUE TO THE AUTO COLLISONS ...WHY WOULD THEY KEEP IT HIGH ? THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT MANAGEMENT OF THE DEER ...long island bow hunters can legally shoot as many does/antlerless deer as they can ,long as they bring in the deer to the ridge check station to get the additional tags ...so were are they keeping it high???? new jersey agencies pay to have deer netted/trapped by professionals and killed on the spot in residential areas !!! AGAIN PAY TO DO THIS !!! get your facts straight before posting ...
I don't care about the diatribe, but do you have a 458 AR?
 
Old 12-27-2011, 04:41 PM
 
Location: bellmore
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I don't care about the diatribe, but do you have a 458 AR?
no 458..
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