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Old 11-10-2007, 11:16 AM
 
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Anyway, sure there are jobs on Long Island:

1) Servicing the old rich people

2) Patching up the old rich people when they get sick

3) Amusing the old rich people

Some of these jobs can be quite lucrative, but I'm not qualified for any of them.
I feel your pain.

Ask your County Exec what hes doing to attract better Employers to LI.

Best workforce in the country....completely under utilized.

We should be Silicon Island...but we suck

C
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Old 11-11-2007, 12:39 PM
 
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I feel your pain.

Ask your County Exec what hes doing to attract better Employers to LI.

Best workforce in the country....completely under utilized.

We should be Silicon Island...but we suck

C
There are huge tracts of empty, industrially zoned land down around the old Grumman Plant. A little business friendliness would go a long way, but it's entirely lacking.
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:00 PM
 
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There are huge tracts of empty, industrially zoned land down around the old Grumman Plant. A little business friendliness would go a long way, but it's entirely lacking.
Create the Island you crave.


C
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:13 PM
 
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Default Create your own opportunity

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I feel your pain.

Ask your County Exec what hes doing to attract better Employers to LI.

Best workforce in the country....completely under utilized.

We should be Silicon Island...but we suck

C
We could do much more as a region to attract stronger employers but I have made my largest sums of money since I left working in the city, at global corporations on the island, all publicly held on some exchange. Me thinks Dedalus attracts the type of opportunities that his persona warrants...It's all about karma...and skill of course...
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:18 PM
 
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We could do much more as a region to attract stronger employers but I have made my largest sums of money since I left working in the city, at global corporations on the island, all publicly held on some exchange. Me thinks Dedalus attracts the type of opportunities that his persona warrants...It's all about karma...and skill of course...
Perhaps, but compared to similar regions, were REALLY light on the Nasdaq100.

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Old 11-11-2007, 09:39 PM
 
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Perhaps, but compared to similar regions, were REALLY light on the Nasdaq100.

C
Maybe...but I find that those that harken for the days of yester year when the island had great employment reference one company: Grumman. It wasn't like there were 150 other large conglomerations driving the american engine on long island at the time. Long Island is not that huge, and is on the wrong side of Manhattan. Aside from cost, business tax, etc, if you are on the western side of nyc, which jersey is, you can tap into much of PA, parts of NY (rockland, westchester, etc) much more easily, Delaware as a region, plus some of NYC with much more ease from a workforce standpoint as well as logistics. Even if the state and region improved the Empire Business Development options and the area calmed from a cost standpoint it would never be as appealing for as large a number of companies as Jersey or PA have become.

And I think everyone overstates the dearth of employers on the island: (not counting reputation, etc) Newsday, Cablevision, Motorola (formerly Symbol), CA, MSC Industrial, NBTY, North Fork/Capitol One, any name regional bank office, Estee Lauder, Arrow Electronics, Telephonics, OSI Pharma, Northrop/Grumman regional office (growing I might add), Canon USA, Esselte, Henry Schein, North Shore/LIJ system (huge), NPD, CMP Media, Pall, Leviton, Sbarro Corporate, Adecco, Honeywell...growing presence of Big 4 firms on the 110 corridor, 1-800 flowers corporate...is it really that bad?? How about all of the colleges, the county systems, town jobs, school district positions...
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:40 PM
 
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Maybe...but I find that those that harken for the days of yester year when the island had great employment reference one company: Grumman. It wasn't like there were 150 other large conglomerations driving the american engine on long island at the time. Long Island is not that huge, and is on the wrong side of Manhattan. Aside from cost, business tax, etc, if you are on the western side of nyc, which jersey is, you can tap into much of PA, parts of NY (rockland, westchester, etc) much more easily, Delaware as a region, plus some of NYC with much more ease from a workforce standpoint as well as logistics. Even if the state and region improved the Empire Business Development options and the area calmed from a cost standpoint it would never be as appealing for as large a number of companies as Jerseyor PA have become.

And I think everyone overstates the dearth of employers on the island: (not counting reputation, etc) Newsday, Cablevision, Motorola (formerly Symbol), CA, MSC Industrial, NBTY, North Fork/Capitol One, any name regional bank office, Estee Lauder, Arrow Electronics, Telephonics, OSI Pharma, Northrop/Grumman regional office (growing I might add), Canon USA, Esselte, Henry Schein, North Shore/LIJ system (huge), NPD, CMP Media, Pall, Leviton, Sbarro Corporate, Adecco, Honeywell...growing presence of Big 4 firms on the 110 corridor, 1-800 flowers corporate...is it really that bad?? How about all of the colleges, the county systems, town jobs, school district positions...

Still weak

See San Jose et al

Forget the Valley....I envy Parsippany.

C
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:49 PM
 
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Still weak

See San Jose et al

Forget the Valley....I envy Parsippany.

C
Give me Morristown, or Secaucus.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:25 PM
 
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We could do much more as a region to attract stronger employers but I have made my largest sums of money since I left working in the city, at global corporations on the island, all publicly held on some exchange. Me thinks Dedalus attracts the type of opportunities that his persona warrants...It's all about karma...and skill of course...
Yes, my skills at the sort of bootlicking that the Long Island Country Club attitude seems to demand are sorely lacking.
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:29 PM
 
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And I think everyone overstates the dearth of employers on the island: (not counting reputation, etc) Newsday, Cablevision, Motorola (formerly Symbol), CA, MSC Industrial, NBTY, North Fork/Capitol One, any name regional bank office, Estee Lauder, Arrow Electronics, Telephonics, OSI Pharma, Northrop/Grumman regional office (growing I might add), Canon USA, Esselte, Henry Schein, North Shore/LIJ system (huge), NPD, CMP Media, Pall, Leviton, Sbarro Corporate, Adecco, Honeywell...growing presence of Big 4 firms on the 110 corridor, 1-800 flowers corporate...is it really that bad?? How about all of the colleges, the county systems, town jobs, school district positions...
Almost all those companies you mention have relocated their manufacturing down South, or overseas. Their facilities here are largely administrative ones.
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