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Old 08-23-2013, 11:59 AM
 
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Thanks for sharing. It's always good to know
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:17 PM
 
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All of the top districts have socioeconomic advantages that other districts don't. Is it really the "district" ie programs, teachers etc causing the better grades or is it genetics and tutoring?

They should try an experiment. For 1 year switch Hempstead and Garden City Districts and see what happens to the scores. Then we will know if the school district makes the difference.

Also, if you have a bright student maybe you should attend a lower ranked school where he/she could truly stand out instead of being an afterthought in a top ranked district to help college scholarship opportunities.
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Old 08-23-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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Socioeconomics does play the largest role.

Obviously some rich kid from one of those north shore towns will have a greater capacity to do well in these metrics compared to a low income kid who more than likely comes from a broken home with a single mother who has to work almost all the time and can't keep after them; and has to consider dropping out of school to support their family to avoid being homeless and keeping food in their siblings stomach.
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Old 08-24-2013, 07:45 AM
 
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All of the top districts have socioeconomic advantages that other districts don't. Is it really the "district" ie programs, teachers etc causing the better grades or is it genetics and tutoring?

They should try an experiment. For 1 year switch Hempstead and Garden City Districts and see what happens to the scores. Then we will know if the school district makes the difference.

Also, if you have a bright student maybe you should attend a lower ranked school where he/she could truly stand out instead of being an afterthought in a top ranked district to help college scholarship opportunities.
I agree. It is not the teachers who cause the good and bad scores on exams. That is why I've never jumped on the illogical 'blame the teacher' bandwagon.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:20 AM
 
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Saying that the kids who come from broken homes dont do well etc. just dosnt jive with me at all. I was the product of a broken home, 5 kids, single mum, poor on welfare most of my childhood. Mum didnt get involved in our school and never helped with homework.

However, my sibs and I all turned out great, are we rich ; no, are we all happy and well adjusted ; most definitely. Yes, we need to hold the parents accountable, but it is our own responsibiility to study hard, and be the best we can be. I didnt have mentors or anything, just a self preservation attitude.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:28 AM
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Saying that the kids who come from broken homes dont do well etc. just dosnt jive with me at all. I was the product of a broken home, 5 kids, single mum, poor on welfare most of my childhood. Mum didnt get involved in our school and never helped with homework.

However, my sibs and I all turned out great, are we rich ; no, are we all happy and well adjusted ; most definitely. Yes, we need to hold the parents accountable, but it is our own responsibiility to study hard, and be the best we can be. I didnt have mentors or anything, just a self preservation attitude.
No way impossible. "Lol" thanks for sharing your life experience. I hope many will learn from it instead of bashing it.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:50 AM
 
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All of the top districts have socioeconomic advantages that other districts don't. Is it really the "district" ie programs, teachers etc causing the better grades or is it genetics and tutoring?

They should try an experiment. For 1 year switch Hempstead and Garden City Districts and see what happens to the scores. Then we will know if the school district makes the difference.

Also, if you have a bright student maybe you should attend a lower ranked school where he/she could truly stand out instead of being an afterthought in a top ranked district to help college scholarship opportunities.
Some good points here. But what if you take 25 average (C/D+) students from Hempstead and put them into Garden City schools? And vice versa, take 25 avg students from GC and put them in Hempstead... wonder what would happen. I think the Hempstead students would definitely rise, the GC students would fall or remain the same.
I view the "district" as more than just the teachers and the curriculum. It's the student body, parents, PTA, facilities, electives, guidance counselors, etc. everything included.

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Old 08-24-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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Saying that the kids who come from broken homes dont do well etc. just dosnt jive with me at all. I was the product of a broken home, 5 kids, single mum, poor on welfare most of my childhood. Mum didnt get involved in our school and never helped with homework.

However, my sibs and I all turned out great, are we rich ; no, are we all happy and well adjusted ; most definitely. Yes, we need to hold the parents accountable, but it is our own responsibiility to study hard, and be the best we can be. I didnt have mentors or anything, just a self preservation attitude.
I don't think anyone has implied that all kids from broken homes don't do well.
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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As per schooldigger.com, Roslyn High School ranks 623rd out of 1062 schools in the state (41.3 percentile) & yet it is ranked very high on this list. So, which is accurate & which isn't??

Roslyn High School, Roslyn Heights NY School Profile, Ranking, and Reviews - SchoolDigger.com
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Old 08-24-2013, 11:43 AM
 
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As per schooldigger.com, Roslyn High School ranks 623rd out of 1062 schools in the state (41.3 percentile) & yet it is ranked very high on this list. So, which is accurate & which isn't??

Roslyn High School, Roslyn Heights NY School Profile, Ranking, and Reviews - SchoolDigger.com
School digger says that the avg score on the state math test from 90 in 2011 to 40 in 2012. I think their data is wrong and this list is more accurate.
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