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Old 03-24-2015, 01:01 PM
 
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This is really good news! I don't know how many kids can possibly learn what they need to in preparation for 1st grade with just half day K.
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Old 03-24-2015, 07:17 PM
 
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It's about time. As a HF resident it is a big embarrassing that Northport-East Northport and Elwood had to shame us into it though.
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:49 PM
 
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good for property values. Northport and elwood are moving in the same direction.
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:52 PM
 
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It's about time. As a HF resident it is a big embarrassing that Northport-East Northport and Elwood had to shame us into it though.
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Old 03-25-2015, 02:17 AM
 
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Harborfields is forming a committee to look into the pros and cons of starting full day kindergarten beginning the 2016-2017 school year. While conclusion jumping is always popular here on citi data, that does not mean they are starting full day kindergarten a year and a half from now.
For reasons I already noted, this may finally be the time to do it relatively inexpensively and without busting the tax cap. But those who know the district know how careful they are in terms of budgeting, know they have excessed about 35 teachers and admins, and have resisted calls to spend for things like turf fields. This could get interesting.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:08 AM
 
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It's about time. As a HF resident it is a big embarrassing that Northport-East Northport and Elwood had to shame us into it though.
Northport is putting it to a vote in a few weeks. A friend in Elwood SD said that her district has no plans to implement it. Is she out of the loop? (She has 5 year-old twins, so it's possible b/c she's so busy!)
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:10 AM
 
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Harborfields is forming a committee to look into the pros and cons of starting full day kindergarten beginning the 2016-2017 school year. While conclusion jumping is always popular here on citi data, that does not mean they are starting full day kindergarten a year and a half from now.
For reasons I already noted, this may finally be the time to do it relatively inexpensively and without busting the tax cap. But those who know the district know how careful they are in terms of budgeting, know they have excessed about 35 teachers and admins, and have resisted calls to spend for things like turf fields. This could get interesting.
Harborfields have pretty high taxes and with all the NIMBY stuff going on they are not increasing their tax base.

Unless you canned the teachers and admins before they were vested in the Pension or Medical plans the savings are less.

My old company years ago had vesting at five years. As Supervisors we were very tough on employees in year 4 and terminated where appropriate. The cost savings from firing or laying off an employee is limited once they get vested.
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Old 03-25-2015, 07:12 AM
 
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Northport is putting it to a vote in a few weeks. A friend in Elwood SD said that her district has no plans to implement it. Is she out of the loop? (She has 5 year-old twins, so it's possible b/c she's so busy!)
if she has 5 year old twins and no younger kids she should vote against it. She got screwed by not having it when her kids were in kindergarten and now she is expected to pay for it for other kids. Crazy.

Most folks in my town all say when my youngest becomes a Senior in HS I am definitely voting no on the following year school budget.
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Old 03-25-2015, 08:06 AM
 
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Harborfields have pretty high taxes and with all the NIMBY stuff going on they are not increasing their tax base.

Unless you canned the teachers and admins before they were vested in the Pension or Medical plans the savings are less.

My old company years ago had vesting at five years. As Supervisors we were very tough on employees in year 4 and terminated where appropriate. The cost savings from firing or laying off an employee is limited once they get vested.
Ten years to vest in the pension system as a teacher and all LI taxes are too high.
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Old 03-25-2015, 08:40 AM
 
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if she has 5 year old twins and no younger kids she should vote against it. She got screwed by not having it when her kids were in kindergarten and now she is expected to pay for it for other kids. Crazy.

Most folks in my town all say when my youngest becomes a Senior in HS I am definitely voting no on the following year school budget.
Are you in Harborfields? I have friends there with a similar perspective- yet they complain about 1/2 day K and low budgets. My understanding is that budgets get voted down fairly regularly in the Harborfields district. It's a bit strange to me- in my district & my in laws district (and I know in many other top districts as well) many in the community vote yes to increased budgets without much resistance, even if their kids are out of school. The perspective seems to be that if things like full day K, better facilities, etc improve the schools their property values will remain high. It's just a different perspective.
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