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Old 08-05-2015, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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Es2-4 is way too big!!! These "plumbers" are basically looking at what you have now and basing that on your needs. Get a real plumber, have a heat load calc done. Trust me.
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Old 08-05-2015, 04:00 PM
 
Location: under the beautiful Carolina blue
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You don't remove an oil tank (unless it's in your basement). If it's underground you leave it and abandon it in place.
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Old 08-05-2015, 07:51 PM
 
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Ah, that makes sense about the stove and dryer (duh!), thanks. We'll probably go through the first winter in this has with oil (just to see how bad it really is) and then maybe convert to gas next year.

Would you say a:

Boiler - Burnham ES2-4 85%
or
Boiler - Burnham ES2-5 85%

is more sized for a 1850 sq ft home? Thank you.
Get a ES2-3. The others are way too big for an 1850 sq ft home.
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Old 08-05-2015, 08:22 PM
 
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Neither.... you will probably never recoup your investment.. Oil prices have dropped so much... Does not pay to convert
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Old 08-06-2015, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Neither.... you will probably never recoup your investment.. Oil prices have dropped so much... Does not pay to convert
You'll still pay over $1k/year to heat your home with oil. It may take longer, but there will be ROI within 5-10 years. Gas prices are consistent (we pay $1100/yr for gas), but oil prices are not.

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Get a ES2-3. The others are way too big for an 1850 sq ft home.
The price difference between the 2 boilers is $200 so I don't think it's worth it to risk being undersized, while still leaving room for possible expansion. Calcs will tell you 1900sf will need about 74000BTU. ES2-3 is 51000BTU while ES2-4 is 77000BTU.

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Old 08-06-2015, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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You'll still pay over $1k/year to heat your home with oil. It may take longer, but there will be ROI within 5-10 years. Gas prices are consistent (we pay $1100/yr for gas), but oil prices are not.



The price difference between the 2 boilers is $200 so I don't think it's worth it to risk being undersized, while still leaving room for possible expansion. Calcs will tell you 1900sf will need about 74000BTU. ES2-3 is 51000BTU while ES2-4 is 77000BTU.
So you did a heat calc for his house???? How many windows?? How old are the windows?? Insulation???? To the op....have a professional plumber do a proper heat calc. That will tell you what size boiler you need.
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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^ what do you think?

Besides, any of those factors would only increase the size needed, especially as the house ages. 51000 BTU is way undercutting it. We're talking about $200 here, so... seriously?
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Old 08-06-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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^ what do you think?

Besides, any of those factors would only increase the size needed, especially as the house ages. 51000 BTU is way undercutting it. We're talking about $200 here, so... seriously?
Its not about the$200, its about having a properly sized boiler for the house.I would bet the3 is oversized and cost a lot more in the long run.
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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^ you mean for the current state of the house. You gave me advice about a router in the past - if you're familiar with IT stuff, you should know all about future-proofing, especially this being a "1-time" project. OP has indicated to me that quote 1 was from Holzhauer who I've dealt with - they are very reputable. I would trust it's already sized & quoted properly. No sense in calling in a pro plumber for additional cost at this point.

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Old 08-07-2015, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Stony Brook
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^ you mean for the current state of the house. You gave me advice about a router in the past - if you're familiar with IT stuff, you should know all about future-proofing, especially this being a "1-time" project. OP has indicated to me that quote 1 was from Holzhauer who I've dealt with - they are very reputable. I would trust it's already sized & quoted properly. No sense in calling in a pro plumber for additional cost at this point.
If the OP is planning on expanding, sure the bigger one is better. If not...its still a waste of $ upfront, and in the future.
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